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Well, that's animal fat. Which is his complaint that this will still require raising cows.

Traditional butter is made by churning milk, so while a cow is still required, it doesn't need to be slaughtered to make the burger.

I wonder if it would be possible to cook it in soy butter?

Given that soy butter is marketed as similar to peanut butter, and has about 1/3 the fat of butter, I'm gonna go with "probably not and what were you thinking?"

(I mean, sure, it's possible to cook your lean beef in peanut butter, so fine, technically "yes it's possible")

Presumably referring to the soy and vegetable oil based vegan butter replacement products.

Peanut butter isn't a butter though. It's just a spread with a confusing name. In dutch it's called "peanut cheese". Doesn't make it a cheese.

I know it's culinary heresy, but unless you're eating it raw (like spread on a piece of baguette) it doesn't matter much what kind of fat you cook with in most preparations. If you were to take 99% lean ground beef right now and soak it with a few spoons of olive oil or canola, it would probably be pretty rich and moist.

The kind of fat does matter for cooking and flavor. Different smoke points, water contents, caramels, etc. Much as crisco was developed in the early 20th c as a vegetable-based substitute for lard, someone could develop something crisco-like but specifically formulated to be marbled together with vat meat, and to sizzle within roughly the same parameters as steak fat.

Dairy cows are typically slaughtered before 5 years of age and are sold as beef; at that age they are considered 'spent' and no longer meet production standards. Also, they must be forcibly impregnated in order to produce milk, and their male calves are either slaughtered for veal or raised and slaughtered for beef. Supporting the dairy industry is supporting the slaughter of cows.

There are plenty of choices for more 'organic' and 'animal friendly' and 'cruelty free' and what have you milk. While the cheap milk is indeed farmed at high intensity and not very animal-friendly to put it mildly, it doesn't have to be that way. Whereas a burger - well you have to kill the cow to get one.

Don't kid yourself. There is no animal friendly way to produce milk on any economic scale. Even if "organic" farms didn't forcably impregnated the cows (which most of them still do), they still take away the calves and hand them over to the veal industry.

Yes yes there's always a true Scotchman argument to be made about how something isn't 'really' animal friendly, but between being butchered for meat or being milked when living on a pasture, using butter to fatten up artificial meat would be a huge improvement in animal welfare.

Lots of methane from all those cows that we will raise and look after.

Is Avocado butter a thing yet?

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