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Trump Era Real-Time Hate Crime Mapper

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27 pointsmalmsteen25 comments

Do hate crimes against trump voters count? Because I have seen those have been reported as well.

Some form of classification here might be helpful. Differentiating between yelling, physical alterations, and those that result in actual injuries as well as the nature of the event.

Typically political views haven't been viewed as a hate crime. So I believe that should be classified as just crime :).

A hate crime is generally one that is inspired by race/ethnicity and gender.

just crime, or just crime?

>> just crime

That's quite a witty double entendre!

Plus sexual orientation

Personally I'd call a crime inspired by political views a hate crime and I would hope the courts would as well. If not, i'd be open to defining it that way.

Gender isn't a protected group, beating a woman isn't a hate crime it's an assault.

Hate crimes have very strict definitions in most jurisdictions, and even those definitions are often a slippery slope bordering on thought policing.

Overall if you beat some one because they are gay you should be charged with aggravated assault and sentenced in the same manner as any other person who thinks it's OK to physically assault some one.

The only time where hate crimes can somewhat be considered useful for protecting society is in non-violent crimes, but even then there usually parts of the criminal code that would cover the crime better.

Would you consider this a "hate crime", then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFSnlANCPo

Some animals are more equal than others

It'll be interesting to see whether you see many hate crimes with this - and whether they'll be different than the baseline before Trump was elected.

My gut tells me that there won't be a drastic upswing (in the belief of the basic decency of bulk of the American people), but let's see if that actually holds.

Edit: On a closer look - the data will be self reported, and the premise behind it is "there are serious consequences, and this is how we'll report them", which isn't necessarily the most fair way to go about things.

The fact that there is no baseline presented and it's some sort of reaction to a perceived increase in hate crimes post Trump is telling about the author. This is either naivety or ill intentioned. Frankly the reaction from CNN commentators, protesters and the armchair outrage on Facebook is a little over done. Because a small amount more people voted for Trump than Clinton doesn't mean we've suspended our constitution, individual rights or protections for protected classes.

And for the record I am not a Trump vote, just an independent thinker.

Completely agree - I can't vote (yet!), but I was Democrat leaning. Trump winning was good for me - in that it opened my eyes to another half of America I had quite frankly been ignorant of, as a tech worker that's been doing quite well for the past few years.

Did I miss something? Will every hate crime is now going to be blamed on Trump? Do what effectively are riots in Portland count as one?

As I suspected, not a word about telling the truth or saying that reports will be validated. We've already had at least one incident where a person lied about a Trump supporter attacking them and committing a hate crime[1]. This easily encourages more lies.

[1] - https://www.google.com/amp/dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/11/10/musli...

And even if they were this is getting crazy 50 or so million people voted for him, calling them all racists is a joke.

Not American, not a trump supporter but I have a huge disdain towards demagoguery of this level.

The United States looks beautifully calm and crime-free in Chrome 54 (Mac).

I also don't see anything... I assume because there isn't enough data yet? "This map, along with other visualizations, will become functional after 25 crimes have been reported."

It doesn't appear to be hooked up to a public database of hatecrimes, or anything like that (I don't imagine that exists). It seems to be 100% user reported, with no real proof required... just an optional link to social media where it was reported.

I don't see how this could actually be useful...

You can't have "real-time" if you have to wait for verification.

You can't have verification if you're going for "if it bleeds it leads" emotional draw.

I wish, I had a friend groped yesterday by a stranger who then screamed at her it was ok as it was trump america... WTF. I think the majority of trump supporters are against this shit, but yesterday was not fun to read facebook and all the stuff popping up from the alt right racists.

How do you know it was a Trump supporter or a pissed off Democrat?

http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/assassination-threats-against-t...

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-anti-trump-rioters-br...

does the Trump Era start today, or at his inauguration?

Right now, I think the 'Trump Era' in this context is simply referring to this time in which assholes and bigots appear to feel emboldened by the perception that over 50% of America agrees with their hateful views.

(Probably an inaccurate perception, but that seems to be some people's takeaway)

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