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This is definitely a satire, but it's so deadpan that it was hard for me to pick up on until nearing the end of the video. Amazing.

Somewhere on the internet, someone is taking this seriously.

See http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law What I don't understand is what is the position of Cecilia Malmström is.

Cecilia Malmström plans to introduce a website blocking system in Europe. This part is sadly no satire.

Here is a link with some background http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-try-dialogue-with-eu-...

and a link to the actual Proposal for "on combating the sexual abuse, sexual exploitation of children and child pornography, repealing Framework Decision 2004/68/JHA"

http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/news/intro/doc/com_2010_94_...

And these people keep calling themselves "Liberals". Beats me.

Liberal is used as a descriptive term in the US while in this case it’s part of a party name. Party names don’t have to – for various historical reasons – reflect the current political positions of a party (think US party names). That’s especially the case in current European democracies with proportional representation. All the parties have very similar positions close to the center, it’s easy for any one party to end up to the “left” or “right” of other parties on any one issue.

(Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US. Liberals in Europe are usually socially permissive as well as economically permissive – like Libertarians in the US. But that doesn’t have anything to do with the point you are making – Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive.)

>Liberal also doesn’t have the same meaning in Europe as in the US.

I know. I am Italian.

>Malmström’s position is not exactly socially permissive.

That's the point. There's nothing liberal in censorship.

>I know. I am Italian.

Oh, sorry. I promise, no more bad assumptions. I should have just written that party names are not a good predictor of political positions and left it at that :)

No prob. It's sad to see that Internet Freedom is really being attacked transversely by all political sides, on every continent. Always with the lame excuse of child pornography. I still haven't decide whether this is the Intellectual Property mafia lobbying or perhaps politicians start to be really afraid of the internet.

Yeah. The part about the bill also extending to block political opposition gave it clearly away for me. Possibly hidden motives aren't typically announced in campaigns.

At 1:14 you see the Ministry of Truth. That tripped me off that. :)

I liked the leaking of the list on "ikiwleaks.org"

Satire for sure...

But the link to PayPal is real enough!

I wonder if they've taken in any money? And if so, did the people think they were supporting this nutty idea or supporting satire?

China's internet as the future of the internet for the rest of the world? I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

I really do hope this is satire. otherwise it would be the beginning of the start of 1984

Sadly this is true in Australia too.

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