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"Oh well, the world will go on."

Will it though? We have a frisky Russia, trouble brewing in the South China Sea, and the Middle East/ISIS/Syria. A large reason why these conflicts are not worse is because of the restraint shown by the US and the other parties involved.

We have essentially just put a child behind the greatest military force in the world.

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This shows the power of media narrative. Clinton said multiple times 'alleged DNC hacking' would lead to a military response against Russia. No fly zone in Syria would mean effectively that.

In case you are curious look at the Wikileaks emails. Obama & Clinton administration stirred up Syria to what it is now and created vacuum for ISIS.

She also told public how long the nuclear response time is which is quite ironic after saying Trump could not be trusted with that information.

> She also told public how long the nuclear response time is which is quite ironic after saying Trump could not be trusted with that information.

Incorrect. The four minute window has been known in the public domain for a very long time. http://www.snopes.com/clinton-four-minute-nuclear/

Trump is not his persona. He has little choice but to be much more moderate than the rhetoric that got him elected.

Maybe... but that's what people said after the primary elections and it wasn't toned down much. At the end of the day, Trump is a nihilist and an egotist that feeds of off the passion of his supporters. "Trump" the persona is what fired up his supporters and is what won him the election. I think he will stick with it.

Are you sure?

Yes. Were you paying attention to the rhetoric that got him elected? A lot of it, if taken literally, was literally impossible. It worked, but it shouldn't be taken too seriously beyond that. Will he have some interesting policies? Yes. Will he follow through on many of the crazy things he said while campaigning? No.

While I agree to a degree, he has a Republican house and senate. I think you might be a little surprised with what he follows through with.

Syria, ISIS, and whole effin' arab spring, is something that was initially supported/not constrained enough by US. Yes, conflicts could be worse in middle east, but they could also... not be, if US and west generally just didn't meddle with crappy but relatively stable systems in place.

And you think Clinton will show restraint? She's a democrat, but her foreign policy is more typical of a neocon republican.

It doesn't seem all that outlandish to expect her to show more restraint than Trump.

What you mean is: Russia is portrayed as frisky in your media. That is different. Perhaps you should look up alternative news sources, YouTube can be enlightening.

Just one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI

So you link to a video from what amounts to a Russian state news service? I'm all for alternative view points and news sources, but c'mon man.

It's about the arguments, about how they are placed in the current newsscape, not about the source but about how these explanations fit in your world view. They fit well with me. And how is this different from American state news like CNN?

CNN is a commercial service.

You know that ad hominem is a fallacy, right?

Attack the argument, not the messenger.

Are you calling Obama a child? Because he has been the president for the last 8 years while all these problems have been mounting.

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