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> What gets interesting is what games do they put on the SNES? ...building a list of 30 such games would take hours to trim down.

Took me ten minutes. Although if I knew it weren't super unlikely, I would sneak Uniracers and EVO: Search for Eden onto this list. Also, yes I know there are a ton more great games for SNES. It was an awesome system. But these seem like good candidates.

* Chrono Trigger * Donkey Kong Country * Donkey Kong Country 2 * Earthbound * F-Zero * Final Fight * Final Fantasy 2 * Final Fantasy 3 * Harvest Moon * Illusion of Gaia * Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past * Mega Man X * Killer Instinct * NBA Jam * Pilotwings * Secret of Mana * Sim City * Star Fox * Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo * Super Castlevania IV * Super Ghouls n' Ghosts * Super Mario Kart * Super Mario World * Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island * Super Metroid * Super Punch-Out!!! * Super R-Type 3 * Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4: Turtles in Time * Tetris Attack * Zombies Ate My Neighbors

That list seems a bit weighted towards JRPGs, though many are well known, and it seems like the SNES had several to choose from.

As much as I must admit I have a moral obligation to complete every one that you mentioned (except Chrono Triger, did finish that one), I think it'd be good to include some types of games. What about, say, Earthworm Jim, MegaMan X2 or X3, or one of the Mortal Kombat titles?

I have to agree with GP, this is kinda hard.

I had Mortal Kombat 2 on there until right at the end. I considered the ones you mentioned. Earthworm Jim seems more like a Genesis game to me, and I didn't think Capcom would be too keen on giving Nintendo all their Mega Man games, considering they like to repackage and resell them about once every couple of years.

Again, I'm not saying my list is definitive and there are no other worthy contenders. It was mainly something I put together based on the games included in the NES Classic, what was really popular, what would likely not be too hard to get the rights to include, and my own personal preferences to a degree.

Also, many would argue the SNES was when JRPGs were at their height and the main thing that differentiated the platform compared to the Genesis.

I was going to argue that if one was going to include an MMX game, it might as well be X3, because it had a different ending than then Saturn/PSX port that more people have played. However, doing some searching, I can't find any evidence for that now. Oh well, any of them would do -- all three were good.

> Also, many would argue the SNES was when JRPGs were at their height and the main thing that differentiated the platform compared to the Genesis.

This, I can't argue with. Now that I think about it, a lot of the SNES titles I've played were JRPGs.

It's incredibly hard to narrow down to 30. The above list is missing Super Mario RPG even though it's weighted towards JRPGs.

The problem with this list is that it's too complete. It's got most of the classics covered. For Nintendo, I imagine that's a problem for this kind of product because (1) it gives them less room to create follow-up bundles and (2) it gives players nothing new to discover, just a bunch of stuff they've already played. Therefore, I think your gut is correct regarding games like Uniracers and EVO. I would add a few other obscure titles to the mix too, like Kirby's Dream Course or Rock 'N Roll Racing.

Otherwise, the list really needs another sports game. Choosing the right title is tough since so many sports games are relics of their time. But a few hold up well to this day. Ken Griffey Jr. Presents MLB (the original, not the sequel, Winning Run) and NHL 94 are good candidates.

Debated adding Rock'N Roll Racing. I played it a ton back then.

The NES Classics system is not designed with later downloads in mind, and I'm not sure why they would release a followup system that still looks like the NES, so I really tried to make the list comprehensive so it could be released in one go like the first.

If it were based only on personal preferences, I'd probably have dropped about 10 of these games and replaced them with others. Lemmings, Earth Defense Force, Batman Returns, Metal Warriors, King of Dragons, Secret of Evermore, and a couple other games probably would have been added otherwise. Actually, King of Dragons probably should replace Final Fight.

A list like this without Axelay, Contra and Cybernator is missing three of the greatest SNES games of all time.

wait I forgot Ninja Warriors, Metal Warriors, Super Turrican (and Turrican 2), Skyblazer, Rendering Ranger R2, Hagane, Actraiser, the rest of the Mega Man X series, the Bomberman series, Captain Commando.

Crap, I think we're nearing 60.

I love Metal Warriors, I just don't think it's high profile enough that Nintendo would likely include it. Cybernator would be more likely. I considered Axelay and ActRaiser but never really played those games so didn't have a strong opinion on them.

Hagane is super rare and virtually unknown in the US except as an underappreciated gem in Youtube videos.

Axelay is IMHO the single greatest shmup on the SNES by a large margin. It's a visual-audio masterpiece. It's not a tough as nails R-Type game, but more of an amazing experience. It was never deeply popular, but I recommend it as one of the top-10 SNES games whenever I'm asked.

You missed a Bomberman game in your list. We used to play Super Bomberman 5 (?) on an emulator and we had tons of fun.

I did have a Super Bomberman game on there originally. I just never owned any for SNES so I didn't really know which one was the best. I mostly played them on Gameboy.

While (relatively)lots of attention has been given to Saturn Bomberman, Bomberman 5 is a grossly underrated game especially in the battle mode. Emulation let us look at an entirely undiscovered world of games that never left the Japanese market.

Thing is, Konami have swallowed Hudson Soft, and then dragged it into the ocean after they've left the games market. So many classic IPs from the 80's and 90's.

In case you missed MMO version http://bombermine.com/.

I would replace super street 2 fighter turbo with street fighter turbo 2. Both excellent games but the non-super version had a bigger impact. Or the regular SF2: the world warrior would work. Though its a little bit slow to play without turbo speed.

I played a loooot more Turbo (It was one of the games I received with the system on my birthday), but figured the extra fighters made the Super the one Capcom would most likely add.

If they go with most impact then turbo would be it. If my player count then super.

Unrelated: a cinema nearby has a Japanese turbo cabinet that im dying to purchase. :)

The fact you included Tetris attack makes me automatically really like you.

Finding 30 games is easy, for me getting it to be the optimal 30 games would be harder. But then my super ideal never happen dream list would include stuff like Final Fantasy 5 and Seitken Sendetsu 3 (sequel to Secret of Mana that never got an official english translation during the SNES era if ever).

Tetris Attack is one of my favorite games ever, and coincidentally helped get me my first job in the video game industry. I was asked what my favorite game was, and I said "Right now, probably Tetris Attack." I didn't realize I was speaking to people who used to work for Bulletproof Software, and worked on Tetris for Gameboy.

Tetris for gameboy is secretly my favorite multiplayer gaming experience of all time.

> Super Street Fighter II Turbo

That's not a SNES game. There is Street Fighter II, Street Fighter II Turbo, Super Street Fighter II and Street Fighter Alpha 2.

You're right. I originally had just Turbo on there, then decided to switch it to Super Street Fighter 2. Guess I was mistaken about Turbo also being part of that title.

I like those choices, especially Harvest Moon.

Personally would add Puyo Puyo and Kriby's Dream Course

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