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New MacBook Pro not compatible with all Thunderbolt 3 devices

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  The version of OS X on the new MacBook Pros (late 2016)
  will not work with existing Certified Thunderbolt 3 docks
  and adapters (released prior to November 2016).

This is ridiculous.

Seriously. I would be interested in learning what, exactly, the problem is. Is there a genuine, reasonable shortcoming in the older chips that would be too difficult to work around? What's the point of something being "Certified" if you can't trust it to work in the future in situations where it absolutely should work?

Perhaps Apple will launch a thunderbolt-to-thunderbolt adapter to make it work.

But it only works if you have a thunderbolt-to-'thunderbolt-to-thunderbolt' dongle on either end.

Apple's "It just works" soundbite doesn't seem to ring anymore. Even recording over USB means no Wi-Fi

Do what now? Can you expand on this? Having trouble finding an article about it.

New Macbook Pro can't walk & chew gum at same time(watch wifi + USB = fail) [1]

It was on HN last night

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o

Is there an article to accompany this? Apologies, I don't have the time to watch the video.

And they removed digital audio from the headphone jack. It's quite a budget device they've been trying to make in all but appearance.

Wait, what?!! That actually pisses me off, I used that jack to watch movies on the TV with DD all the time.

I hate screwing with streaming this, AirPlay that, or trying to play it with another box connecting to the TV because inevitably there's some glitch or problem with the codec.

I don't mind using a dongle to get HDMI, but I always relied on the optical output to go to my older receiver which doesn't have HDMI ports.

> in all but appearance

And consumer price.

Hopefully they release an update within a year with a 32gb ram option. I was for sure buying a new MacBook Pro until I went to the order page and couldn't find the ram option. My late 2013 will just have to last another cycle.

Why do people need 32gb of ram? I can have 15 tabs in chrome, a music player, 3 windows of my IDE, and a word processor on my current 8gb laptop just fine.

VMs.

Spin up a few vagrant instances to test that stack you're coding and you can quickly wish you had more memory.

I think it's better to use cloud servers/containers once you have to run that many VMs concurrently but obviously that starts to cost more money.

It's not only about the money. Connectivity is still not everywhere, and even if it is, bandwidth/latency issues arise. I really like having local data, local VMs and local everything. Sync when connected, but ready to go at any time.

Yeah, I would gladly convert to using hosted VMs but I'll loose sync'd folders which I really need.

That's what I'm waiting for as well

Incredible. Have any HN Apple insiders provided any info on internal opinion regarding the Macbook Pro furore? Apparently a popular nickname is Dockbook Pro

You're just plug it in wrong.

scnr

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