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MacBook Pro 2016 first look: One week later

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Meh, another heavily search engine optimized article from an affiliate. I skimmed throught it, but one particular thing caught my attention:

> Initially, for pulling photos from my Canon 5D Mark III, I went running back to my old MacBook Pro. Over time, I've had to do that less and less. Now that I have an iPhone 7 Plus, I haven't gone back to my Canon once.

This is just ridiculous. How you can compare a high grade professional DSLR to an iphone? He's either lying about owning 5Dm3 or just spent heaps of money on something he doesn't need.

Good catch. Well, we know he's certainly not a wedding photographer or a pro photographer of any kind. Not because I'm defining "pro" arbitrarily, but because it's extremely unlikely people would pay thousands of dollars for photos to a guy taking snaps with his iPhone. Not to mention that iPhones don't trigger strobe lights. Nor telephoto effects, not a bazillion other things that MKIII's have. The only thing in common with someone who selects between an iPhone 7 and a MKIII and two MacBooks to sync them to is the fact that they can afford these.

I bet most people who buy similar cameras are not professional photographers. The best camera is the one you have with you. Sometimes I carry the good, big one, when I know I'll have lots of opportunities to play with it but, similarly, I have left it at home more often since my phones became decent enough to take reasonable pictures.

I always wonder when someone is glorifying a display (whether in a laptop or in a phone, IPS or OLED) - are the differences that visible? Or is just oversaturated profile? Shouldn't color calibration ensure exactly the same look'n'feel?

I am working on calibrated displays, I am assuming that "Once you see it, you can't go back. The reds are so red. The magentas so deep. The oranges so bright." is not really applicable – once you calibrate the display, it should be "reds are as usual, magentas are as usual, oranges are as usual" (maybe sometimes "oh cool a new shade of red/magenta/orange" because of wider gamut).

The new displays are capable of showing colors that old displays were physically incapable of showing.

I am sure they are, still it is not a "wow effect", it is just incremental update – "wow" is just oversaturated default profile.

Edit: most of recent Apple products are capable of displaying at least full sRGB, since 99.9% (obviously this is a random figure, but almost every content is srgb, until it isn't) available content is sRGB it does not really matter and difference should not be observable (assuming displays are calibrated). Sure, when using a space that is bigger than sRGB (in PS or LR) – you may see some difference, but for most of the time it is not mindblowing.

The new MacBook Pro display can supposedly cover the full DCI-P3 space. If the default system elements like icons and desktop photos are provided in DCI-P3, which I bet they are, then the difference would be noticeable compared to an old screen at sRGB or less.

As for whether it's mindblowing, well, that depends on the person I guess.

I had the wide gamut screen on my 4K iMac. It truly was a breathtaking experience. Going back to a PC monitor was difficult.

Even with all the niceties, I feel like it'll be years before apple recovers from all this "no old-school USB ports" BS.

That keyboard looks insanely unusable.

Can we please just go back to the PowerBook G4 keyboards?

I don't mind the keyboard on my 2015 for shortish stretches, but do a lot of devs use their laptops directly, like actually in their laps, for most of the day?

My laptop spends 99% of the week on a stand, with the lid closed, and hooked up to dual monitors and a real keyboard (and other various peripherals).

That's really the biggest meh for me about the latest MBPs. The touch bar doesn't do much for me because my lid is mostly always closed. The keyboard doesn't really matter as long as it's useable for a couple of hours at a time.

But the lack of ports is kind of a big loss for me. When I travel and need to show a slide deck or share my screen in general on a projector, having the built in HDMI port generally means I'm safe and dongle free. Inevitably whenever I need a dongle that I own, it's somewhere else- especially my damn Ethernet dongle.

I also dabble, mostly at the hobby level, in micro electronics and I'm wondering what kind of random issues I'm going to have connecting to those over USB. I'm assuming a hub will prevent most issues, but I'm positive I'll spend a number of hours at some point because the C-A/B conversion goes awry in some way.

This seems like the oddity of it. The keyboard is poor, but the touchbar is useless if you don't use the keyboard.

The lack of (useful/mainstream) ports seems surely due to the desire to go thinner - looking at the old MacBook Pro, it was as thin as it could go for those port dimensions.

Sigh.

I also work in same manner as you do, but I think you should keep your computer's lid open to keep it cool.

It's on an mRain Stand [0], so all ports and vents are exposed fully and I've never detected any extra warmth from having the lid closed.

I prefer the lid closed so OSX doesn't try to treat it like a third screen- my laptop gets docked to the left and pretty much behind my left hand side monitor, making it un-viewable.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Rain-Design-mStand-Laptop-Patented/dp...

This is also the main thing making me question the purchase

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