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I am sticking with Mac because it just works. I have had quite a few non-Mac laptops previously. They rarely stay in good working condition for more than a couple of years. I currently have the late 2012 13" retina Pro and it has shown no signs of stopping. The only other one that has the sort of quality I see in a MacBook is Dell's XPS. The developer edition has me intrigued, but I really think this new MacBook with a Touchbar is going to be the future. The lack of ESC or function keys has no bearing on my development so that isn't an issue for me either.

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I think the keyboard is tipping me over the edge on the new MacBook Pro's, its horrendous. There's no travel at all, the keys just immediately click. Interested to see what other people think about them as they start getting their hands on the new models, as a developer this is a very important aspect, and on top of the unwanted touchbar, the massive price hike, the lack of standard ports etc its all just a bit too much this time around.

I typing this on my coffeeshop computer, a 12" MacBook, with the butterfly keys. I don't like them very much; my four year old MacBookPro Retina has much nicer keys and so does my Apple Magic Keyboard on my desktop system.

I'm curious about the new MacBook Pro keys, they allude to second generation butterfly keys. Have you had a chance to try the newly released system's keyboard?

Yes its the brand new keyboard that I was referring to, a friend got one from his workplace, space grey looks amazing and the larger trackpad is nice but as mentioned, keyboard is a no go. I really hope the reasoning for it wasn't to shave off a few more mm!

I have the 2014 MBP so my comparison is skipping the first generation of butterfly keyboard that you mentioned, I've been told that its worse than that one too but I can't say myself.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I always bring a small mechanical keyboard anywhere I go. Usually something quiet, in case I'm working in a coffee shop or something. A Poker2/3 fits well over the MBP's keyboard without hitting any of the keys on accident.

Yes I've seen people doing that, and I do appreciate a mechanical keyboard, is the typing position a bit high though?

One thing I saw someone mention is that because the new keyboard is wider you might not be able to rest a poker on top anymore, possibly because it won't reach the edges to sit on them without sitting directly on the keys?

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