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GTK? QT? And, since we're talking elementary, Vala?

GTK has been fairly hostile to non-Gnome usage since the GTK 3 era; they keep on breaking backwards compatibility for applications that use it, don't care about whether apps can be used on non-Gnome desktop environments, etc. I don't think it's all that polished either.

I instantly believe you, based on my experience of the fiasco that is Gnome 3, but can you share some examples of this?

Have fun reading,

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10757985

Wish I hadn't asked now. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Not really, they don't even cover half of these ones

https://developer.apple.com/reference/

Not to mention the related GUI tooling.

Where is Instruments on QtCreator, for example.

You have valgrind and many other tools instead of "Instruments".

The GNOME project itself [1] has a lot of projects which compete with what you linked. Sure, Apple has a few billion dollars to dump into development every year, so you have to adjust for scale.

[1] https://developer.gnome.org/references

None of them has the polish of a full working desktop stack like macOS.

Once upon a time, around 2000-2, I did some minor contributions to Gtkmm.

Yeah. See my other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12854983

I know GNU/Linux since 1995, eventually one gets tired of being part of the 3% desktop usage.

I'm still young and naive :P

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