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Next we extend the 7 Subway to NJ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_Subway_Extension#Proposed_...

The Path stops about 2 miles from the airport. That would be a good project to finish.

http://www.nj.com/traffic/index.ssf/2016/05/push_to_expand_t...

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Hong Kong Airport made me realize how idiotic it is that we don't have these rail links:

- PATH to EWR

- 7 to LGA

Not only does Hong Kong have a subway terminating inside the main terminal, it runs separate from their MTR line, takes 30 mins to get into Central and makes a handful of stops at major MTR junctions along the way. It felt like public transit working exactly as it should.

Chicago as well. The blue line goes from downtown to inside ORD within 45 minutes, and the orange line goes to MDW. Not sure how long as haven't flown to / from MDW in years. I generally ask visitors to take the CTA instead of a cab because it's much faster during the day. Getting to any airport in NYC via public transportation is a pain, including JFK. Which is strange because the MTA is otherwise very impressive.

SFO-OAK is pretty easy (despite that ridiculous, overpriced cable car at OAK).

Tokyo's great too even if you don't understand Japanese. Haneda is in a great location and has tons of connections. Haneda to Narita is also pretty easy (bonus: monorail).

Airports are, by design, generally out in the middle of nowhere and their connectivity suffers as a result. You get things like London where Heathrow and London City are reasonably accessible, but things like Stansted are out in the middle of bloody nowhere.

Stansted has a direct train. The problem is that it's way out, not that it doesn't have a good transit link.

Sure, and from Liverpool Street the Stansted Express is quite expensive (> 30 GBP) especially when compared to simply taking the tube to Heathrow (<= 6 GBP). That is, IMO, bordering on expensive enough to consider that poor connectivity.

I always take the Heathrow Express, so I guess you aren't on an expense account! If I read the rate card correctly, the Stansted Express is cheaper than the Heathrow Express.

Well, Stansted is kind of a giveaway, right? It's the RyanAir airport.

Yep. It's bad. The A to JFK is also a poor experience.

I've turned down 3-hour layovers before that required change of airport in NYC because I'm not confident it's enough time.

On the other hand, I take the Chinatown buses in / out regularly. It's a pretty smooth arrival experience in comparison.

There's an effective private bus that does NY airport transfers. EWR is not so good, but I'd be confident about LGA/JFK.

Discovery is a problem. When I only occasionally traveled to NY I didn't know about this bus. My NY-based girlfriend told me about it.

Do you the name?

There are more than one around the city, but I usually take http://www.nycairporter.com to get to/from JFK/LGA and Manhattan when I don't want to take public transit (usually because I have a lot of luggage).

I live within easy access of one of their pickup/dropoff stops in Manhattan, so it's quite convenient.

I had a 3 hour layover at JFK, once . . . It was barely enough time to change terminals at one airport, never mind changing airports. Immigration was part of the problem, but still . . .

> Not only does Hong Kong have a subway terminating inside the main terminal, it runs separate from their MTR line, takes 30 mins to get into Central and makes a handful of stops at major MTR junctions along the way. It felt like public transit working exactly as it should.

And you can check your bags at the train station and you don't have to see them again until you get to your final destination

The lack of the 7 or any other subway to LGA is thanks to rampant NIMBYism. Everyone wants it but nobody wants it to run down their street.

EWR has the Airtrain instead of the PATH. That was more practical than building a new right-of-way for the PATH. PATH trains couldn't run on the NJ Transit/Amtrak tracks because of incompatible power systems (third rail vs overhead.) Also those tracks are at capacity at peak times and couldn't fit Path trains in addition.

I was not aware of the practical limitations in connecting PATH to EWR. This makes a lot of sense.

Getting PATH to EWR would be a huge win. It's a pain to deal with the various schemes of getting from the airport to the city. PATH to EWR would probably put many taxi companies out of business. When I fly into Newark, the last thing I want to do is take the Airtrain to connect to something to connect to something else.

Heathrow definitely has it correct in terms of trains into London.

Sadly the current proposal seems to be to extend PATH to the same station so you still have to take the infuriatingly terrible monorail. Honestly they'd probably be better off spending some money running the monorail straight over the scrapyard/parking lot instead of taking a massive curve at 2mph

The AirTrain is already due for a full replacement: http://www.northjersey.com/news/newark-airtrain-s-demise-com...

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