Hacker News Reader

There are many web frameworks in java that don't use JSPs. Wicket is a good one.

Many web services use servlets directly -- no JSP or other 'framework'.

Other web startups may use Java for internal roles other than 'serving pages'.

Still others may have an applet or desktop-Java component to their overall service.

Various other web-frameworks?

Out of those three, only JSP is like a basic building-block for web stuff.

It might be better to name only "Java", which would then cover everything related.

Yeah youre probably right. I just wanted to separately measure JSF and GWT, but there's so many other frameworks its probably better to simply group them under "Java".