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It was already announced before, that the hardware is included. And it was clear, that it is meant to be used for autonomous driving. And as they do not have autonomous driving yet, this is indeed just hot air... How would they know it is completed if there is no demonstration of it actually working?

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Looking at what is not said, my interpretation is that previous Teslas will not be software-upgraded to full autonomy because the problem is harder than they previously thought.

And in actually announcing this commitment now, that this one would be the final hardware, could also be just forced, as they need to sell it to all the people getting cars now with temporary less functionality.

Their LIDAR provider pulled out and now they're switching to camera-based CV and ending development of the LIDAR branch. I think they're hoping that this approach matures enough to match the capability of LIDAR in time for them to meet their market goals.

Either you're confused or I'm confused as to what you're talking about. Tesla has never used LIDAR and they actually leaned more heavily on CV until recently when they started using radar more extensively.

mobileye doesnt use lidar on Teslas, it was always one low resolution camera, barely enough for lane following.

the problem was http://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/09/tesla-dropped-by-mobiley...

Elon just tweeted that a video showing car navigating an urban environment is forth coming. Without actual footage and info the post is a bit light on the crucial implementation for sure.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/788902908175618049

They dont know, thats how they killed couple of people using mobileye hardware before.

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