> I'd like to talk about ORO memory management, which is pretty interesting

I'd like to see talk about ORO memory managment which is not of the following form: "NewLisp isn't really Lisp because of its <expletive deleted> ORO memory management; you cannot replace real Lisp with that kind of cruft ..."

That is why I have tried to articulate what I suspect it is that actually bugs Lisp people about NewLisp. It's not the fexprs or the lists working differently and so on; trying to frame it technically is misguided.

If you have some problem with the trolling behavior of a project, but you try to frame it in technical terms, that's a waste of time.