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1) Outside of family and homes, the cost of living is just crazy. Especially with a family. Also the area is more family friendly than SF (since I was there last). Commute is short and easy. Plus trees (different than SF). 2) Yes 3) No 4) As always comments are my own and may not reflect the opinions of my employer. (They have been quite kind in offering time and space to assist in job transition.) 5) These differ around the team, but shouldn't be an issue.

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Heck yeah anywhere in TN vs. SAN Francisco. There's about a zero homeless epedemic(it's very sad to see/experience how many suffer on the streets there) in Nashville and elsewhere compared to the Mecca of that SAN Fran. Cost of living is great.. mountains.. fresh air.. no people shouting crazy stuff with a megaphone and more.

Note I live and am from the D.C. area and graduated from MTSU.. visited SAN Fran many times for meetings with Google who stomped on me, a reality tv show and others startup adventures. Not my cup of tea even growing up close to D.C. And Baltimore which the same suffering isn't occurring on the same scale... maybe it's the weather... hoping in the next ten or more years SAN Fran changes/helps those in need.

As someone who's lived in both places, Nashville has plenty of issues as well. Never seeing homeless people or people who don't look like you doesn't mean they aren't the or that there's not a problem, it just means it's less visible

Yes less suffering in just about every US city then SAN Fran in this regards.

Thankfully it's not seen that/as much in Nashville and Baltimore. More in the latter then the former.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Or at least better quality of life :p

I come at this from all angles from less people suffering to personally having to feel bad about their situation vs my own.

Ok, indulge me for minute... it sounds like you're saying that choosing to live somewhere like Chattanooga will -- by itself -- result in less people suffering.

Umm yeah because your blue collar paycheck goes a longer way then in SAN Fran.

> Never seeing homeless people or people who don't look like you doesn't mean they aren't the or that there's not a problem

In fact, many jurisdictions have practices which inflict harm on the homeless specifically to make them less visible (and/or to cause them to relocate and become someone else's problem.)

Yeah and they were bussed and dropped off in SAN Fran.. agencies in Reno were doing just that.

Homelessness is not just about pan handlers on the street and other visible forms of homelessness. A lot of the time you can't tell someone is homeless, or is experiencing intermittent homelessness.

A quick google seems to point to about 4000 people in Chattanooga experiencing homelessness per year. SF has concrete stats that are easy to find [1] and points to 7,539 experiencing homelessness per year. Based on total populations (173,366 people in Chattanooga, 837,442 in SF), the percentage is actually a lot higher in Chattanooga than in SF.

Liking a small city is totally fine of course, but it's not correct to assume SF is completely overrun by homelessness whereas Chattanooga doesn't have any.

[1] Warning, PDF: https://sfgov.org/lhcb/sites/default/files/2015%20San%20Fran...

You are comparing apples to oranges. The SF number is a "point in time count", so on that particular day there were 7500 homeless people. The Chattanooga # you are referencing is "how many people were homeless at any point in the year". Given how many people are temporarily homeless, I'm sure any point in time survey of Chattanooga would show a dramatically smaller number. I don't know if it's better or worse than SF, but comparing those two numbers is basically meaningless.

Yeah, you're right, a longer Google makes that obvious. I couldn't find a good source for PIT for Chattanooga, but it looks to be somewhere around 700 based on a few news articles. So it's about .4% vs .9%.

I think the conclusion still stands though, it's not correct to state Chattanooga has no problem with homelessness and SF is overrun. Homelessness isn't just people asking you for money on the street.

Like, as long as you can ignore it, it doesn't bother you, right? Homeless and crazy people make me, like, super sad and scared too. I totally get it. I'd live in Tennessee in a second if only there were no black people. It's so depressing having to see racism.

> doesn't see the suffering in Baltimore

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