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What's enraging is that you pay $100/year for that abusive treatment.

What's enraging is you pay 30% of your sales for that abusive treatment.

You pay a massive markup on dated technology for that abusive treatment.

In their eyes, it's more like "we give you 70% of OUR sells in OUR platform, to OUR captive customers, they just happen to buy your App but they will buy something else if we want to ban you..."

It's a matter of perspective. In their eyes, they are being incredibly generous with that deal.

Eh, without the apps the phone wouldn't sell in those numbers. In their eyes they are dependent on the devs.

The iphone sold in those numbers even before there was an App Store.

No, it really didn't. The first iPhone was 2G and it was a year before the app store was available.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-ipho...

That may be true at first, but when they have a huge part of the market... they could argue: "without our customers, you wouldn't have that many users". Kind of like a chicken and egg situation. When they already have such a large slice of the pie, they start to care mostly about the bigger app developers, and the small ones are just something they need to show big numbers, but they are not that important anymore...

(Just to be clear: It's not that I think they are not important, it's what I perceive as their attitude when things like this happen)

They are dependent on developers as a whole, but not on any individual developers (with perhaps a few exceptions).

I own an app that pays social media celebrities to respond to fans, we pay them 60% of our profits. Apple broke their own app store rules stating we would be disqualified from IAP and forced us to use it. So after we pay out our partners of which our entire app exists, Apple are making 3x more money than we do from our own app. And take 2 months to pay us. Oh, and provide no transaction id's for unique customers so if one of them requests a refund or does a chargeback we have no way of tracking it back to his account. To say there's a culture of hatred towards Apple in our team is an understatement.

are you the guys who pay celebs to advertise that random social media app on their snapchat/instagram with taglines like "more on [social media app i've never heard of and a chance to talk to me"? really amusing tactics that abuse the core fanbase's rabid enthusiasm for content from their favorite personalities. i never considered that the appstore is probably taking a lot of money from you too

$100/year? What if you have say a company of 5 people whose salaries get paid by the virtue of your app. One noreply email from Apple and Google and their jobs and your $1m/yr company is over? This has only become possible with the invention of curated app stores. You cannot even be fired from a normal job in the US instantly by a noreply email.

It's extreme but it's not entirely new. A new version of an operating system or Internet service you depend on could make your app impossible or infeasible.

True, but something changing and your app not running, is different than them just blocking you from using it at all.

You can fix an app if the platform changes, but you can't put an app on a platform if the platform won't let you.

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