Female chess players forced to wear hijab at world championship in Iran
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Isn't that exactly the point? By your own choice of words it's clear it's not culturally acceptable in the US and Europe, (except for specially designated areas/specially designated times).
No, these city laws have been struck down by a higher authority. You can't wear a burka or a niqab though I still see women wearing that stuff in Paris suburbs, granted in places where 90% of the population is muslim and no non-muslim would dare live in.
After all immigrants good, "that" religion good, it's all the fault of Mr. Trump, capiche ?
Yup. In France. Yet they're agitating.
No, it's a law. You don't just get the side-eye, you might serve some time.
Iran like all countries have certain cultural norms. I am not allowed to chew gum in Singapore. I am not allowed to drink alcohol publicly in places like Dubai. I am not allowed to smoke outside in the city in parts of Australia. I am not allowed to wear full body swimsuits in parts of France. Welcome to the world.
Need to change slightly. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to chew gum in Singapore. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to drink alcohol publicly in places like Dubai. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to smoke outside in the city in parts of Australia. I, whether a man or a woman, am not allowed to wear full body swimsuits in parts of France. Welcome to the world.
But I, only because am a woman, and because the barbaric Islamic sharia law treats women as second class citizens, have to wear hijab/burqa in Iran (or other Islmaic country). Welcome to Islam.
edit: typo
The hijab worn in Iran is a lot less restrictive than the hijab worn in a lost of other Muslim countries. I would join in the outrage if the chess players were forced to wear a niqab, but requiring people to wear a loose headscarf is hardly oppression of the worst degree.
The symbolism is what is important. A government that tells you what to dress will certainly not stop with benign restrictions.
The question then, is where do we draw the line?
I could be misguided and maybe women have less tendency of going topless. Do you have any studies at hand?
Substitute NYC for a city in the USA where it's illegal for women to go topless.
Actually, it is legal for women to be topless in New York: https://www.law.cornell.edu/nyctap/I92_0160.htm
Just because something's a cultural norm doesn't mean you should accept it.
Social progress is made by fighting against cultural norms that treat groups of people as second-class citizens.
Both are widely rejected by countries, including many in Western civilization.
Still a fan of rejecting social norms that are objectionable to many of us? Or only those America doesn't hold dear?
I am a non-American who owns a couple of firearms. I use them for hunting. There is no intrinsic wrong to firearms. They're a tool. Just like any other tool, they can be used for good or for bad.
I have stated that a society allowing private citizens to bear arms is a social norm.
You're talking about the usefulness of guns. Totally no relation.
It's on HN because hackers, as a whole, react to what they perceive to be injustice, or discrimination.
Hiding behind a nation's "norms" doesn't make it OK to tell foreign visiting women they need to hide themselves. Personally I don't think anywhere in the world a woman should be forced to do this, and it's all fine and good to try to find analogies like wearing shirts in public, but this is a step too far.
This isn't a nation saying their women have the right to do something, this is a nation saying all women should do this regardless of their beliefs, despite the majority of the world disagreeing with it.