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> The typical explanation was that SF was a "fun" place to live with much better leisure options than the desolate office parks and suburbs of the SV towns.

Depends on your definition of fun - being harassed constantly by both homeless people and SFPD? If so, then a paradise awaits you.

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Everything in SF closes at 10 PM. Even the bars shut down at midnight. Not very fun.

Now, it's been a few years sin e I've bothered with SF nightlife (having lived near, but not in, the city) but has it really changed that much? Because I remember there being plenty open much later, and many times starting at 10 or later.

This is inaccurate. Most bars in SF are open until 2am, and The Endup is open all night and into the morning.

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