McDonald's Happy Meal survives one year, doesn't decompose
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Wrong wrong wrong. If this assertion is true, then people won't get fat eating junk food. But no, let us make a obscenely wrong jump in logic to support our biases.
And she didn't say how she stored it. In the shade? In direct sunlight? Was the food still wrapped in packging or directly exposed to the flies in the air?
EX: I don't think they use antibiotics to preserve food, however if they did it would prose a problem to complete digestion.
I don't think they use antibiotics to preserve the food. That would put them in a ton of regulatory hot water that I don't think $0.99 products cooked in McKitchens can support.
Essentially a McDonalds fry is sanitized on the inside, sealed and coated with enough salt that microbes won't develop on the surface. Salt is used in antimicrobial rinses for mouth infections and is regularly recommended by dentists and doctors for oral issues, so somehow a food preservative known and used for as long as human civilization appears to remember is now synonymous with inediblity?
The burger again is made with highly salted meat and is fried not grilled, which has the same effect as with the fries. Not to mention protein and fat has a much longer decomposition cycle than carbohydrates.
Simply put it isn't anything to do with the edibility of McDonalds foods its a testament to the preservatives used in their main consumables.
I'm sorry, there's hardtack in museum pieces that have been fully unpreserved and stored to the open environment for going on a century that would still be edible and fully digestible - and it's mostly carbohydrates!
The McDonalds food would not still be suitable for human consumption, if it was the author should have eaten it. The bread doesn't look dehydrated it looks like its probably saturated with penicillium, which likely aided in the preservation of the meat it encases. Again the meat is highly discoloured compared to the original photo (golden brown originally to a near black) and has also shrunk considerably (in the original it is to the edges of the bun, in the new photograph it is considerably smaller than a shrunken bun). The fries also are considerably dehydrated, which again only has a preservative effect.
Exceptional use of a combination of preservatives does not mean a food is inedible or non-nutritious.
As for their assertion that flies wouldn't touch it, that is likely a combination of two reasons. The first they attest that it had no odor, which is a key navigation system for flies to reach food (like flies to cow shit isn't a saying because cow shit is odorless, you can smell most from half a field away). The second reason is that insects, especially their larvae, are relatively unprotected against the environment and any becoming in contact with the salt would rapidly have succumbed to salt poisoning.
If they wanted to argue that nothing other than humans are foolish enough to eat these products then they obviously have never left a city. When virtually every city in England has signs posted everywhere against not feeding the pigeons/seagulls isn't because people are feeding them bread or a nice piece of sirloin steak, no they're being fed fries. Go to any coastal city in England and you'll see entire flocks of seagulls fighting over leftover fries from fish and chip shops. These animals wouldn't be thriving to the order of thousands over inedible and indigestible foods.
The author obviously wants to sell a book about nutrition for infants and is trying to do so by arguing that feeding your child a Happy Meal is bad for the health. However a Happy Meal isn't bad for your babies health, it isn't poisonous and it isn't going to kill them, perhaps its not nutritionally the best you can supply for your child but then neither is Kraft Dinner, hot dogs, bacon or any other of a long list of foods that children are routinely given that aren't nutritionally ideal.
Excessive quantities of anything is harmful, including supposedly healthy foods. Polyunsaturated fats whilst apparently heart and brain healthy have been linked with marked increases in skin cancer when not consumed in proper quantities (IE when not from eating actual fish). The holy grail like treatment of polyunsaturated fats led directly to a monumental increase in trans fats when it began being used and advertised as a healthier baking/frying medium when the healthiest is actually saturated fat as it is heat stable. Companies are now returning to saturated fats to remove the trans fats that the misguided health Nazis introduced into our diets as being HEALTHY for us. They swapped a fat with a minor link to heart disease with a fat with a major link with heart disease.
Simply put: Eat the burger or don't fucking buy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfHA7AdjIY
The difference of course is the prevention of the drying of the food using the jars. This lady performed this "experiment" in a low humidity environment (at a high altitude) allowing the food to dry before decomposition.
Drying is an ancient form of food preservation. This experiment would have had dramatically different results if performed in Florida.
The "Supersize Me" piece is freaky enough (observe the mutant indestructible fries) without the embellishment and the "think of the children" angle.
There's no actual facts in that post. Not one piece of verifiable information apart from the observed fact that McDonalds looks visually ok to eat a year after it was cooked.
I think its just a case of "lets see how high I can get my Google Analytics to go". I will still go and eat a Large Triple Cheeseburger meal this week because that post had no valid information in it what so ever.
That has nothing to do with its labeling. It's like justifying some demagogue because in no place is he labelled a philosopher.
This perhaps demonstrates something very specific but what is implied is something more general about Mdonald's stuff, something it didn't really demonstrate in any kind of way. With a control it would have, provided what it demonstrates is real in some way.
- Cheese can sustain really long in the freezer. Bulgarian cheese won't - you have to eat soon. - Same with milk. In Bulgaria (well many years ago, now you can find the same crap) - you have to drink the milk max 1-2 days after it was bought. Same with yogurt. - Bread back in Bulgaria couldn't stay for a long time, you have to eat it too.
I can't say whether food getting rot quickly is testament for it's quality or not. Just observations.
(Basically intense heating for a very short period of time)
Actually pasteurised cheese tends not to last as long as raw milk cheese, because it doesn't carry the proper fauna and flora, that prevents the "bad guys" from thriving.
All the shit in the food in the US is really unhealthy. The reason it could happen is because of corporate interests meddling with regulatory bodies. The US government is letting it happen.
addendum: it's entertaining to see the rabid downvoters in action on this and the post below me. I think it speaks a loud and clear message.
Yes some preservatives are bad for you, but equally well some are good for you. It also depends on the quantity.
Also you need to consider that unpreserved food costs a lot more (delivery, spoilage, etc). Using preservatives means that people from low incomes can often afford healthy food products which would otherwise be outside of their price range. Avoiding food with preservatives for these groups would often mean a far more restrictive and unhealthy diet.
Repeating urban myths about foods (like "preservatives are bad") are dangerous because "popular knowledge" is often decades behind scientific research and can cause people to adopt behaviours which are actually bad for their health. If you want to say "x is bad" then make sure you actually have the research (ideally a randomized trial or a Cochrane meta-analysis) which backs up what you're saying.
Vitamin C is a preservative, are you arguing that it's bad for you ?
Or are you saying some specific subset of preservatives can be bad for you ? - in which case you should be specific about which preservatives you're talking about rather than talking about them in a generic way.
Also, counterexample: Organic Jerkey. It's healthy and easy to digest, yet it will not rot. Because it's dehydrated.
Rotting != Human Digestion
The concerning issue is the amount of artificial preservatives in fast food. And do all of those artificial preservatives leave our body or do some get absorbed?
Nobody's saying that McD is health food, but that ain't proof. I'm particularly scared by some of the comments, especially when they come from teachers. Reminds me of the old penny/coke parlor trick.
[Edit: Here 'tis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ljW5YEdao&feature=relat... ]
Not in Colorado. Cold, high and dry is remarkably potent combination, stuff will pretty much mummify if undisturbed.
Dead humans are basically meat, and in the right climate and situation we will dry up and not decompose. Mummification happens both naturally and artificially (egyptians) and something similar is probably happening to the Happy meal here... If people kept it damp and the same thing happened, I would be worried...
This is a commonly repeated notion that I cannot stand. Deep fried food is not synonymous with fast food/junk food.
I've definitely seen this in action hundreds of times. I wonder why this? People who won't eat grilled fresh asparagus in olive oil and garlic salt and pepper, or Beef Bourguignon, or Korean grilled ribs. Even a few who don't even like their food to touch on the same plate, will scarf down a stack of fast food bacon cheeseburgers like the place is going out of business.
Picky eaters are people who use food the way an alcoholic uses booze. For the picky eater, food's purpose is to help regulate one's emotional state. Picky eaters choose food based on utility, not taste.
You can't get a food high off of broccoli, spinach, or asparagus. You can however get high off potato chips, french fries, pizza, macaroni and cheese, cheeseburgers, and chicken fingers. Therefore these foods are useful. Asparagus and friends are not useful. They don't ping your pleasure sensors. They do not address the picky eater's problem: some mild to major emotional distress.
Many picky eaters don't like their food to touch, and don't like odd ingredients in their dishes because it creates a risk that the food won't deliver the sought after high.
Once when visiting my cousins, their mom made macaroni and cheese for lunch. I got pretty excited when I heard that. However, when I heaved the first spoonful into my mouth and bit down on a piece of onion, my whole body tensed up, my eyes started to water, and I felt myself getting angry. What had she DONE to my reliable drug? Basically, I freaked out. I was 7-8 at the time I think, and yes, I am embarrassed by this story.
A picky eater doesn't want carrots to touch his/her mashed potatoes. The contact might ruin the potential potato high, like mixing baking soda in with your cocaine. When the picky eater puts something on his plate, he puts it there because he knows how it will affect his brain chemistry. If it touches something else, who knows if it'll still get the job done?
When a picky eater goes to a restaurant, they look for things they recognize on the menu and order those. They do this because their relationship to food is different from the average person. The picky eater is dependent on specific foods that create the food high. A new dish might fail to create the food high, leaving the picky eater with a serious problem on his/her hands.
As a kid I learned that junk food made me feel good while vegetables and stuff like it tasted funny and didn't. To my kid brain, it seemed logical and efficient to not waste time eating stuff that didn't make me feel good. So I embarked on a life of "picky eating," aka, not eating vegetables. This continued through college, where I began experiencing negative social consequences.
I've gotten a lot better in the last 4-5 years. I still can't stand Caesar salad's and anything with iceberg lettuce in it, but quite like leafier, greener ones that aren't so crunchy. I no longer detest broccoli but appreciate that it kind of tastes like beef if grilled properly. There are still a lot of vegetables I have a strong aversion to, but I manage to hide it well in social settings.
Is there even much room for preservatives in fries? They just seem like dried out, deep fried starch sticks. Can you even eat McD fries without washing them down? They hardly need drying out, they're half way to cold rocks by the time you finish your burger.
This could have been a better experiment if they used a real composting technique to evaluate the time to degrade and being transformed into compost.
The McDonald's Happy Meal (without the packaging) can be crushed/mixed into small parts. A similar burger (made from fresh/untransformed food) could have been used as a comparison. As the composting takes some times (depending of the oxygen concentration, temperature or the biological activity), the Happy Meal and the reference could be split into 4 equal parts. Those 2*4 parts would have been put at different place inside an active compost (from bottom to top as the type of biological activity is different). Every 2 weeks (or every month depending of the activity level) a sample is taken to confirm the level of degradation. It's not full proof but that could already provide a ground for comparison.
By the way, Is McDonald composting their unused food? or something else? we never know.