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> Hundreds of Iranian refugees are currently residing within the country

It is not very good example. Greece took 600K refugees, Hungary similar numbers, etc...

Problem is that those countries do not offer any social benefits. Refugee needs at least 600 euro/month to feel welcomed. Albania is actually very unfriendly towards refugees.

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I think the article is more about the culture than the ability of the country to provide. When people host refugees in their home and try to offer them a life as good as their own, I think they're being very welcoming and friendly, regardless of how much they can offer in absolute terms.

>Refugee needs at least 600 euro/month to feel welcomed.

There are tons of locals (in Greece and Hungary and Albania that would be like 20-30%) that make less than that. Like full 8-hour jobs for €400/month...

20-30%? Lucky Hungarians (although I believe your numbers are off). Median net salary in Poland is about 415 euro. More than half the population doesn't feel "welcomed" by these standards...

Yeah, was mostly extrapolating from Greece -- and only including employed people too. For Greece I should factor in that 60% of young people and 25%+ of general working population are unemployed, so they make 0 euros (if they're lucky, they get some welfare money for a year or so).

And the EU officials wonder why they aren't happy about thousands more mouths to be fed paid by taxpayers, spreading BS about racism.

It's not racism, it's economy.

Yes, but economy is a dirty word these days when it comes to the people's economic needs and demands.

It's all about what big corporations, banks etc need.

Most Albanians are making 150-200 Euros a month. Many make 100 Euros.

I think the article is more about the culture than the ability of the country to provide. When people host refugees in their homes and try to provide them with a life as good as their own, I think they're being very welcoming and friendly, regardless of how much that is in absolute terms.

> Refugee needs at least 600 euro/month to feel welcomed.

OK, I really hope you are being sarcastic. As a refugee, you make a choice to escape brutal violence, get a roof over your head, some (minimal) food and clothing, and you actually need some money also "to feel welcomed"?

Where's the line between refugee and economic migrant?

I would say there isn't. If your economic situation is so bad, that you are willing to throw yourself into the sea on a rubber dinghy, you are a refugee from severe poverty and life so horrible that you are willing to risk dying just to escape it.

If it was up to me, I would expand charter of human rights to include this.

Only if the host country has the right to demand for them to leave their culture, religion and customs at the door. Otherwise it could be a very bad deal for the welcoming country.

You are not entitled to a better life somewhere else, other than the country you are citizen of.

Refugee runs away from, economic migrant goes abroad to.

If I'm not mistaken, Isn't this a trend from other European countries too like Romania and Serbia/Belarus?

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