Slightly-related: has anyone interviewing with Airbnb used the author's public starting offer of $220k total compensation to negotiate their own starting offer? Genuinely curious.
http://haseebq.com/farewell-app-academy-hello-airbnb-part-ii...
http://haseebq.com/farewell-app-academy-hello-airbnb-part-ii...
I have my friends who just got offers in Airbnb who are getting paid 180k in salary and ~600K in stocks which is basically $330k/year.
My other friend who is senior engineer with 5 year experience is compensated around 500k/year.
I have similar experience and i recently did a job switch with around 11 competing offers and negotiated well more than the previous number. I negotiated with every offer except snapchat whom didn't move their needle but their offer was good not the best.
If you're really good, you can easily negotiate up to 400k/year real money(cash + stocks).
- Googler/Fb employee with 4 year work experience here.
And I go around telling my friends that software engineers can make 120k right out of college, and I'M getting laughed at by my friends at how apparently unbelievable ridiculously high this is.
I've got 3 years experience and I'm making not much more than that working at a midsized startup (I went to a top tech school and everything!).
And then I go on Hacker News and learn that the fair salary for people working at big companies, with around my experience is 330k!?! Man what am I doing wrong.
Is this what it is like being the mythical, 10x developer unicorn that I hear so much about?
Bingo! He's joking.
Offers i had got, Uber, Airbnb, Snapchat, Google, Robinhood, Netflix, Salesforce, Affirm, An investment bank in NYC, Two stealth startup in SF.
In Facebook, it's very common for one high perfoming engineer getting discretionary equity of 1M+ if you do re-defines or create a meaningful impact.
I'm sorry i'm not going for any startup soon as it's hard for employees to make money now. People join startups thinking they are going to do 10X. But investors give equity to startup engineers at 4X inflated valuation. So outcome is probably 2.5x with very high risk.
You do exceptional performance at google/facebook/uber and get noticed by your director and he throws 1M worth RSUS on you in next review cycle. Do it twice and there goes `rest and vest`.
The worst part is if you think this is the best offer for the years of experience, then you're totally mistaken :D
Every compensation discussion on HN invariably brings out of the woodwork That One Guy Who Knows That One Guy Who Makes $400K at Google. The take-away from reading these threads should NOT be that this is an ordinary compensation.
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer/Sa...
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-software-en...
Not posting this to brag. I'd like to increase awareness among engineers to negotiate.
I can show you my W-2 at the end of this year.
Your aim to "increase awareness" does nothing for a normal or even above average software engineer negotiating their offer at a non-outlier company. How does this help them? "I think $200K is reasonable because somebody on the Internet told me that some people at Google make $400K?" Is that really going to fly, basically anywhere?
EDIT: Another source:
My experience is that only outliers ever come out and talk about their compensation, leaving the audience with the impression that most everyone is either a $400k/year Googlecorn or a $40k/year code slave.
God do I need to get out of the startup world and start working for one of the unicorns....
Why not go interview at a big company, then?
>If you're really good, you can easily negotiate up to 400k/year real money(cash + stocks).
It's funny how early stage startups talk of hiring "the best" and most can't even come close to affording that level of compensation.
And yeah, with a big hype from VCs and investors tweeting about startupX, Y, Z, engineers get fooled and join a startup and work for 4 years and later figure out it was a bad idea.
It's a very bad idea to join a startup for money unless you know the founders really well who have a track record of selling themselves to Google/Facebook/Oracle/MSFT.
That's not what I said, but thanks for your contribution all the same.
Airbnb offered him less to start. So I'm curious if someone in similar shoes (say, similar level of experience) used his expanded offer as a point of negotiation.
This whole thing is a joke.
I work in product company with high profits in billions. It's common for new grad engineers who join as L3 and become L5 in 3-5 years in all the above companies.