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> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it.

Can you explain this?

iOS is used by lots of musicians. Musicians use lots of headphone cables to connect music equipment. Even if they use lightning, they now can't use an iPhone for some music app while performing, output the audio, and charge it at the same time.

I'm against the move, but undoubtedly we'll soon have a breakout device like the MacBook has for having HDMI, audio in/out, and power all through the one port.

Even if Apple doesn't make such an adapter, third parties undoubtedly will.

Unless it's locked down through the DMCA

> we'll soon have a breakout device

USB-C indeed. Apple chose not to use it though

> undoubtedly we'll soon have a breakout device like the MacBook has for having HDMI, audio in/out, and power all through the one port.

The Dell XPS 13 has a USB-C (Thunderbolt 3) port, which can do display, audio, and AC power all in the same port.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd

USB-C is the port on the Macbook as well, for what its worth.

I was not aware people were using mobile phone apps for live performances (or any serious music production actually). Laptops are common, but using an actual iPhone for a live performance seems unusual. Is this really a common thing? Unless you are referring to playing music during a party or something? I guess I'm out of touch, lol.

iOS is incredible with its amount of music making apps, and I'm not talking about mixing existing songs. There are synthesizers of many different types (sampler, rompler, additive, subtractive, FM, granular), traditional samplers, loopers, drum machines, live input, etc.

That's cool. I guess there's no reason why things wouldn't naturally progress towards that. Phones are now powerful enough.

My only experience with creating music electronically was with Fruity Loops back in the day, so that's what I had in my head. I figured it would be hard to manipulate something like that on such a small screen.

The iPad does seem more suited, as the other comment mentioned.

I use Magellan with my iPad as it is cheaper than buying a Nord. Interestingly I can use Beyerdynamic headphones with my iPad, whilst having a USB keyboard plugged into it. This will not be possible with this iPhone.

Less so the iPhone than iPad, which appears to still have a headphone jack.

I've definitely seen some live iPad mixing and synthesis, though.

Last restaurant i went to was playing music from an iphone for example.

Wait another five minutes and a charge + headphone adapter will be available from a third party like Belkin.

I imagine the iPad Pro will keep the audio jack indefinitely, much as MBPs still have many ports Apple had eliminated in other devices.

They can't? https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare...

Presumably due to the lag from bluetooth combined with the inability to simultaneously charge and output sound.

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