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Anecdotally, this seems to be a stronger thing in Node.js community than others. I recall on occasion on the Node channel on Freenode when I got chewed out by the ops+ for not being inclusive enough with a casual "later, guys" (or "later, dudes").

(+ bona fide opped ops, notwithstanding the Freenode "low channel temperature" guidelines)

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>Anecdotally, this seems to be a stronger thing in Node.js community than others.

I have seen people speculate that this is due to the lower barrier of entry in the JS community (as a whole), although I'm not certain how true this would be.

there's a pretty low barrier to entry in the PHP world, and I don't think we've seen anywhere near the same level of scrutiny.

Well lately, everything seems to be focused on JS, no? There's node.js, react, angular, $JAVASCRIPT_FRAMEWORK_OF_THE_DAY, ... So if JS is most of what you hear about, and if the community does actually have low entry standards, it seems logical that it'd be the community that would attract the most issues.

Well I think PHP has fallen out of favor for Node among the "I wanna program" crowd. Of course this whole "social justice" shit-show is a more recent thing so all the heat is in that community, leaving PHP out of the festivities.

I had a similar experience with the Rust board, so (anecdotally) it might not be related to the low barrier of entry.

If you don't mind me asking, what experience did you have?

um is not "guys" a gender neutral term these day I have in the UK certainly had female colleagues us it in that way

It is generally used that way. But it's also sometimes used in the gender-specific manner, and so some people will take offense over it.

Well, most of my friends and acquaintances are women and it's not uncommon for them to say stuff like "I need to grow a pair" or "I need to just man up" if they think they're being a bit unconfident. They're very gendered phrases and I must admit to finding it a bit strange hearing women say them, but it does demonstrate that they've become pretty neutralised in modern parlance.

A social justice warrior would suggest that those women are experiencing internalized sexism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalized_sexism

There is a simple explanation for this. NodeJS is a popular new environment; it's much more likely that a developer starting today will survey the job market, and choose to pursue NodeJS. It's very likely that a developer starting today belongs to a younger generation.

Generationally, these concepts of triggers and safe spaces are almost exclusively limited to younger generations.

Therefore, if younger people are choosing Node, and they're the people who believe in this nonsense, you're going to have some overlap there.

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