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I wish that Ubuntu wasn't the default desktop Linux - they have a development process that means that they don't necessarily ship stable software, they use their own graphical interface stack that nobody else works on, and they don't have the resources to deliver on any of their ambitions.

Ubuntu Server is quite good, since it's mostly a polished-up Debian, but Ubuntu Desktop is probably always going to be almost good, and no better.

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I stopped using Ubuntu when it went off in that weird direction with the UI.

My HP Stream 11 runs Mint XFCE and we put Mint Cinnamon on the laptop my wife uses. Both these just kind of get out of the way and are mostly unnoticeable, which is mostly what I want from an OS as a user.

Isn't Mint still basically Ubuntu, but with their own release cycle that's even further abstracted from the Debian one?

True. I could just use XFCE or Cinnamon on top of Ubuntu. But I have to admit 'Linux Mint Cinnamon' sounds cool. Probably a dumb reason but at least I'm honest!

I stopped using Ubuntu years ago because of their development process making upgrades more complicated than necessary. When I do recommend an operating system to someone nowadays, I usually go for Debian Testing or Debian Stable.

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