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I don't think that's right. Most laws require a trial. Speeding does not require a trial: you are guilty if a cop says you were speeding. You can appeal, of course.

I was strictly addressing the parent's comparison about speeding tickets. They are not like other laws.

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You're not guilty just because a cop says so. You have a right to a trial for every speeding ticket. Most people just waive that right.

I stand corrected. Sounds like you are technically not guilty unless you waive a trial.

That is not correct. When you return the ticket, they make you check a box on the form indicating your plea, either "guilty, here's my money" or "not guilty, give me a trial."

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