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Describing some project with phrases such as "built with love" or "from the ground up" really make me cringe.

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I concur. Yet to see any "Built with hate" projects. Like "Built with hate in Perl!"

Perl, the choice for the self-loathing hacker

I like working with Perl. Admittedly its easy to shoot yourself in the foot with it.

I have done some work in Java and Javascript. It was all done with hate. If there was any love there, it was for the paychecks I got at the end of each month.

You should try working with Salesforce. That makes JavaScript seem like a pleasant experience.

At the last company I worked for, we used Salesforce as our database and source of truth in one of our web applications. It was exactly as horrible as it sounds :)

I've been there, and I feel your pain. My boss wanted to use it as the source of truth for one of our monitoring systems. It was... ugly.

"This project was built for revenge, over a three-day sleepless marathon fueled by my hatred."

"Cool, so what does it do?"

"It prints Jacob is a loser nerd in large ASCII art characters, over and over again."

"..."

"The message is hard-coded for now, but I'm planning to make it customizable next time I get angry at someone."

The polite term is "enterprise"

If it's "Built from the top down" it might be "with hate!"

Also, when startups start the description of their generic SaaS tool with the word "beautiful".

It usually seems to mean: "The app doesn't do very much yet, so we had room for plenty of UI whitespace and 18px fonts."

they make me cringe too , but i often question myself if feeling this way is my own fault. What is wrong with loving code or loving a little project? Do we all wanna be seen as hardcore devs that do this work cause we are forced to? I'm not attacking just a question I'd like to pop out there.

Yeah this is the thing. Especially for projects built in off-time, this feels like people expressing "I code for others for money, but this I gave up my time for because it makes me happy."

It's pride in work. Nothing wrong with that.

I thought it was cringey because the phrase is overused[1] and sort of a joke by now? I would never cringe at someone loving to program for fun.

[1] I've seen too many website footers that say "Handcrafted with love in (San Francisco | New York | Portland)".

As an advertising statement -- "built with love" -- means nothing to me as a consumer. If there is nothing more interesting to tell me in that space, then it suggests there is some kind of lack in the product.

All I care about is the value, quality and cost of the product.

It is very cringey though. It's no real indication of how much love went into it, and just comes across as an attempt to stand out and appeal to hipster impulses.

:-) Aren't you bikeshedding? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12403557

As someone who doesn't know or use python but just knows about it, I thought love was some kind of a python framework as frameworks tend to have weird names.

Nah, that's for Lua :) https://love2d.org/

What gets me is the <in {languageX}> like that gives it more credibility to be trendy.

Organic, 100% fluten free, home-grown Python!

The app I am maintain says Built with Love in Stockholm. Must have been some sort of masochistic love.

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