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How do you guys do this? IS there a service? Do you add na.melast@gmail Or do you create them on your own domain through the hosting company?

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I use a catch-all (*@mydomain.tld), and forward everything to the same place. Really simple and I can just make up email addresses on the fly when I need to, no config necessary, and harder to reverse than the +addresses trick.

You can use anything after a + character with Gmail.

E.g. myaddress+service1@gmail.com will go to your inbox and you can filter on it.

I'd image most shady spammers would know enough to filter out the +.

But not every website out there allows you to enter this as a valid email address.

My earlier hypothesis was that this was on purpose, to make sure you don't use a filter on any email they might send. But these days I'm tending to think it's just a bad regexp on their side.

Even worse, some sites let you enter a plus address initially but that address will not work in some account management pages. I had an instance where I signed up to a pizza place with such an address and I could not unsubscribe or edit my mail preferences because of it.

For example, overstock.com. Their registration page lets you use '+' address, but their login page forbids it.

If you are just starting to do this...it's very easy to forget you did it for a particular site.

"I can't log in and to boot your site says there is no account matching first.last@gmail.com. What kind of Mickey Mouse operation are you running here?"

"Sir, you are an idiot."

If you're using a password manager, that's a non-issue. And until we have something better than passwords, you really should be using one.

That's a solid point. I've generally avoided password managers because not knowing my (unique-per-service, strong) passwords makes me nervous in exactly the same way as not actually knowing the phone numbers of the most important N people in my life.

You'll get over that little hurdle once you realize that you can dump the anxiety of remembering a hundred password variants for different sites. And realistically speaking, you're probably not even using a hundred variants...or possibly even 10. If you're memorizing passwords, chances are your re-use frequency is nonzero.

What's important is to keep a backup of your password database in a few places. I use KeePass because I have no desire to keep passwords, encrypted or not, in a cloud service. I also don't find value in browser integration (possible attack vector?). I'm generally very DIY-inclined anyway. Your preferences may vary.

Thanks, I'll check into KeePass.

And trade it for the anxiety of your manager getting pwned.

I guess you aren't familiar with KeePass. If your KeePass database is pwnd, that means your box has been pwnd since the database is stored locally and not any cloud provider (unless YOU put it there). This means you have much bigger problems and is not a shortcoming of KeePass, itself.

As a full disclaimer, there are some issues with KeePass [1], but known issues are detailed in full by the project and are available for review.

1. http://keepass.info/help/kb/sec_issues.html

A hardcopy backup is also wise

For gmail, you can also put a period "." anywhere and it still works.

It's often called plus addressing. Quite a common feature in mail servers and mail services. MyName+<any-random-text> at gmail.com ends up in MyName's mailbox.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose? Surely anyone savvy enough to be dealing in black-market e-mail address lists is savvy enough to just remove everything after the + sign?

You never use the bare address. If it gets stripped then it gets binned.

What do 'bare address', 'stripped', and 'binned' mean in this context?

I don't agree with him, but he means you never use the email address without a "+service" in it.

Then, if the spammer strips (removes) that part, it gets sent to the trash (binned).

Works well until you encounter a service that thinks you can't have pluses in emails

Probably yes. The software I'm using supports configuring the character per domain, so I can use say . instead of +, so I could use myname.service@example.com which I assume would solve that.

There is such a service: 33mail.com. I've just signed up.

I use Fastmail, which provides very nice wildcard aliasing under a domain. *@mydomain goes to a single inbox. I can also create specific aliases such as foo@mydomain.

I have a wildcard redirect so that <anything>@mydomain.com is forwarded to me. That way whenever I sign up for a service I just use, e.g., dropbox@mydomain.com.

I used that practice, and ended up selling the domain. Updating everything was an absolute nightmare as a result, and I couldn't make a simple request like, "please forward my one primary email address to me for the next few years." YMMV :)

Don't sell your domain until you've done a search for "to:*@example.com" :)

Personally, I worry much more about ad-hoc stalkers or angry people doing semi-manual digging. Such a scheme wouldn't help much. Does anyone know a convenient pipeline for managing (receiving, creating, disposing of etc) 3-rd party email accounts?

Have email on you own domain is risky unless you active manage it. Otherwise forget to renew your domain once, all your credentials are gone...

You definitely need to remember to renew it, but a yearly repeating event in your calendar should be sufficient. That's hardly "active management".

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