The Fall of a High-End Wine Scammer
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If you want to amuse yourself, here's the thread: http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61257
It's interesting to me that even the mere hypothetical suggestion that Premier Cru was a Ponzi scheme produced such outrage.
Also, "Wine" to "Why am", classic autocorrect. I wonder how much longer we're all going to get to enjoy them?
P.S. I spent 10 years in hospitality industry and have known many wine sommeliers, purveyors, and restaurant owners and have sold enough wine to be able to judge the regular public. I've also participated in many blind tastings and never experienced anyone "mixing up" the verity of wine.
P.P.S. I put color in quotes because all wine is white, red wine gets its color from the skin of the grape and the oak barrels. That's why Oak Ages Chardonnay is "golden", it took a bit of the oak barrel with it.
If you're curious, white Pinot Nior should be easy to find. Try a blind test against other verities, for scientific purposes.
[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/23/wine-ta...
Granted, "Study after study" was clearly wrong.
To save you the bother of reading the article (though it is pretty interesting) here's the key few sentences which describe the experiment setup and execution. Essentially a scientist called Frédéric Brochet was doing some research into "perception and wine tasting" and setup an experiment with some undergraduate enology (wine tasting) students.
"The undergraduate subjects came into the lab one week and were given a glass of a red wine and a glass of a white wine. (both Bordeaux, but the experimental details do not include any label or vintage, so we are unable to judge them) They were supplied with a list of potential descriptive words, and told to make a list of words and phrases that best described each wine, either from the supplied list or in their own words. The following week they return to the lab for another session. They were presented with two glasses, one containing white wine, and the other containing the same wine dyed red. They were then given the list of descriptors that they had used to describe the wines from the previous week, and asked to choose which of the wines in front of them best represented each descriptor. It was a forced-choice setup"
So "undergraduate students select the same words to describe a red wine which they had previously used to describe a white" becomes "wine experts can't tell the difference between red and white".
It is infuriatingly short of methodological detail and the little that is there is very much open to questioning.
http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6125...
Basically every page before then is a few people saying it might be a pyramid, and everyone else calling them trolls or competitors smearing the company.
It's funny that there were a few people who guessed exactly what was happening years before the bubble burst and they were silenced by all the people saying everything was fine because they got their wine just fine.
One problem is that it's really difficult to distinguish business incompetence from never intending to follow through, so often the guy pulling the scam won't be prosecuted and pops back up pulling the same scheme in a different market. It's totally legal to solicit orders and only then try to fulfil them, and depending on the market sometimes there is an issue actually getting the product.
Should be on Netflix - edit: but it is not :(
Sulfites are often added at bottling time in order to reduce oxidation of the wine. If the wine is very young, it is usually filtered, which can introduce oxygen into the process. Thus young wines often have sulfites added. If a wine has been aged for a couple of years, it will not need to be filtered and so it might not have sulfites added. Depending on the winery, you may find that higher quality wines will have little enough sulfites that you won't get a headache.
Keep in mind my original sentence, though, if you are allergic to sulfites. No wine (or beer) is free of it, so if you are in danger, do not consume it.
Or the guy simply forgot about the older orders...
http://nymag.com/news/features/rudy-kurniawan-wine-fraud-201...
HN discussion:
Delightful.
Oh god no. I'm genuinely surprised, although I shouldn't be.
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Ok seriously, stop, I can only take so much of this whiplash. That's right up there with not wanting to breath the same air as the "Peasants".
"The idea of terroir has a mystical aspect. However, salt water, tides, moist morning air, cool afternoon breezes, nightly fog, rolling hills, mineral soil and intense mid-day sunshine allow Carneros to be a truly unique appellation. Vineyards in close proximity to each other produce distinctly different wines, each a true expression of its terroir. And yet, there is always an overriding Carneros identity, a product largely of the dominating maritime climate."
However, you shouldn't believe me. What you should do, if you doubt, is perform a blind taste test: Pouilly-Fuissé vs Pouilly-Fumé.
The two regions are literally across the river from each other and have distinct characteristics.
Simply, to de-romanticize[1] "terroir", it's all about chemistry. The taste is a chemical reaction and certain climates, soil, etc. allows an individual to taste "stuff".
[1] http://winefolly.com/review/where-wine-flavors-come-from/
So, if ask me, the wine thing is a scam from the begining. The only stable criterium for good vs bad wine is how bad the head ache in the morning. I.e. I can drink a >20€ bottle alone and be clear the next morning, while a <20€ bottle (with exceptions) is a bad idea.
Oh, and I'm French, and most my family and friends have contracted this oeno-magicallicus virus, which makes you believe in things that do not exist. [edit: and pay for them unexistent things]
- Far from being "literally across the river", the two regions are ~200km apart by road (Pouilly-Fumé is from the Loire valley, Pouilly-Fuissé from the Mâconnais).
- The two wines are made from different grapes: Pouilly-Fuissé is a Chardonnay, while Pouilly-Fumé is a Sauvignon Blanc.
Maybe you meant Pouilly-Fumé and Sancerre? Same grape, opposite sides of the Loire?
If you plant them in Vidalia (or anywhere with sandy soil and low sulfur content) you get lovely, sweet, onions. Plant them anywhere else, and they're just as piquant as any other white variety. That's a really big example of "Terroir", without the mystical crap attatched. Grapes as I understand it, in relation to their water/sugar/acid content, vary greatly with relatively minor changes in climate.
At least in part, this is why climate change is likely to do quite the number on French wines, possibly forever, definitely for a very long time.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12289729 [2] I speculated they were growing weed, but they don't know what the neighbors were doing to use so much power.
I feel as though I've lost my mind over the course of a single, brief conversation online. This is the "golden umbrella stand" of the electronic world.
I wish I was joking: http://arstechnica.com/staff/2015/02/to-the-audiophile-this-...
[1] http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-gift-for-music-lovers-who-have...
(Most of us are born with just a palate. Palettes need to be surgically inserted.)