Deutsche Bank’s $10B Scandal
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-22/mirror-tr...
If you are into Michael Lewis like books, there is a good book called the Quants that follows the path of 5 people in finance. One of them is Boaz Weinstein who became the youngest director ever at Deutsche and whose group made over billion one year as derivatives traders. The bank has been cleaning up the mess he left ever since.
It failed last years banking stress test in no small part to Deutsche's involvement in the derivatives market. The IMF just named them as the most important net contributor to systemic risks, followed by HSBC and Credit Suisse. So next time someone tells you that american banks are responsible for screwing up the world. Point them at the Germans and the Swiss :)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-29/imf-deutsche-bank-p...
In all likelihood, they never do. Russia Account buys $10MM of Stock in rubles; England Account sells $10MM of Stock in pounds sterling. Presumably England Account sold short, meaning it pays interest on its borrowed stock. Other than that, there is no carrying cost to maintaining the arrangement. Worst case: you deal with it if you're caught in a short squeeze.
If these securities were bought on different exchanges, e.g. Russia Account bought the Russia-listed stock and England account bought the UK-listed version, they may never be directly reconcilable. One would have to negotiate "special delivery" off exchange with willing counterparties [1].
Otherwise, one could demand stock certificates in Russia, mail them to the UK, and deposit them in England Account to close out the short position. That seems like a lot of trouble to avoid paying short interest. Worst case: after withdrawing funds from England Account let it default on its short obligation if the price goes up, thus leaving Deutsche Bank to sort out the mess of reconciling England Account's loss with Russia Account's offsetting (hopefully) gain.
[1] Actually, doing this on exchange seems sloppy. Sure, you get a bit more liquidity. But that doesn't seem like something you'd be worried about when putting in place a structure you expect to leave be into perpetuity. Doing this in the private, i.e. un-registered securities, markets would leave less of a paper trail and make moving the securities easier.
The article does mention how a bunch of these transactions were OTC, earning pennies here and there for Deutsche.
> So next time someone tells you that american banks are responsible for screwing up the world. Point them at the Germans and the Swiss :)
Yes, that sounds plausable when we read the OP. And I am not here to defend Germans, but the largest shareholder of DB are Americans at BlackRock:
https://www.db.com/ir/en/shareholder-structure.htm
(6.05% held by BlackRock Inc., New York)
Ignoring/avoiding their responsibilities is not ok
I think you know this, but Boaz Weinstein is an American who worked for Deutsche Bank, in America.
Many businesses in the Russian Federation avoid taxes by using offshore jurisdictions, such as Cyprus, for their headquarters. Rich Russians, meanwhile, often funnel their private fortunes offshore, in an effort to hide their assets from the capricious and predatory Russian state.
Going round Russian restrictions seems if anything to be positive: When the rules themselves are wrong one should not feel bad violating them.
The other day in response to an HN comment I dug up this link: http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3427198/banking.... If I had a large amount of money in Russia I too would be looking for ways to get it places where it is unlikely to be seized. One does not have to closely follow the case of Khodorkovsky, or for that matter Kasparov's advocacy, to be convinced that Russia is an ill place for long-term investments.
Prisons are full of people who think this; just because you don't like a law doesn't mean it's not illegal.
Which perspective should take precedence in a functioning society?
The consequences, or lack thereof.
You suppose a society could function without an intricate understanding of the necessity of ones own actions? That would be the definition of irresponsibility.
The operative term in their sentence is not "feel bad," it's "violate," and prisons are indeed full of people who do not feel bad about violating laws.
Do I misunderstand you?
Whether the laws in question are just or whether the culprits in Cyprus will be brought to their punishment in prison is open. That's what I mean, you didn't understand.
I gave my only argument, trying to mediate between the two opinions, trying to consolidate them. I hoped that was obvious. I am also torn between these two extremes, and avoided to build a line of arguments.
Even if it doesn't the, the implied opposite doesn't logically follow.
Prison is not a good proof of the legality of anything. Prison is terrorism when it is punishment, not mere exclusion from society. And when it is, then the need to exclude is a much more basic principle to argue about. Which the OP hardly did, so why did you try? Taking the bait pretty much. Arguing the law itself would have been on topic.
The definition of a functioning society is far out of scope here, anyhow.
as far as i know, that is illegal almost everywhere. it doesn't seem to be a big deal to Russia because
> When Moscow regulators looked into the mirror trades, they found little to trouble them.
but the rest of the world takes a dim view to the kind of crazy activities that seem to happen on a daily basis in Russia. if the internet is to be believed, every single billionaire in there must have made their fortunes from selling nuclear missiles and ISIS oil.
You can't very well expect Russia to enforce other countries' tax rules if you aid Russian companies and individuals to take their money beyond the reach of the Russian state.
Besides, it's not clear to me the Russians are any worse than the US. If I emmigrate to Switzerland (or wherever) and renounce my US citizenship, the US believes it has the right to take 40% of my assets and tax my Swiss income for the next ten years. That's gangster state BS.
I was not aware of that, and given how crazy that sounds I looked it up, and it seems to no longer be true.[0] I still find it crazy that US citizens have to pay taxes when they live abroad.
[0]: http://www.expatinfodesk.com/expat-guide/relinquishing-citiz...
That's interesting. I wonder if any of the commission-free brokers like Robinhood allow one to carry balances in multiple currencies.
How are there no capital gains tax on the sale? Is it moot because you make no / minimal profit?
While this is an interesting article it seems hard to draw a direct connection between the alleged money laundering activity described and the systemic instability created by DB's gargantuan derivatives book.
I wish there was some more level headed mainstream commentary on financial markets beyond what Matt Levine gets down for Bloomberg.
It goes like this: You and your friend set up two separate managed funds, but the trades you make are the exact opposite of each other. When you sell USD and buy gold, your friend sells gold and buys USD. When your friend goes long GOOGL and short AAPL, you do the opposite. The size of the trades are managed such that after a year one of the funds doubles its assets under management and the other is wiped out.
Now instead of a strategy using 2 friends over 1 year, imagine a similar strategy involving 8 friends over 10 years. After a decade you have one fund that is up 700% (and 7 funds that are down 100%). You then advertise that fund to outsiders, taking a 3% commission on all assets under management. Since the fund has such stellar results its assets under management are bound to swell enormously, and that 3% is almost pure profit.
$54T = "too big to fail" != scandal
https://twitter.com/peterlbrandt/status/695006728044163072
Ok, actually it's $75T (€54T)...
Sobering.