Nissan Motor Company has announced a new type of gasoline engine
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The difference from a conventional engine is that the engine stroke is increased or decreased automatically. The stroke is the distance the piston travels up and down in order to turn the crankshaft. A shorter distance that is closer to the combustion chamber increases the compression ratio because there is less space for the fuel/air mixture. When the system is operating in low compression mode the piston travels more and does not reach as high. The combustion chamber then ends up being farther away and a lower compression ratio is achieved.
What is novel about this approach is how the combustion chamber was left in the same place. Past efforts by SAAB had the engine head moving the combustion chamber away from the pistons. This drastically changes the characteristics of the combustion process. Something that makes emissions control challenging. Any power loss due to a dynamic combustion chamber is removed by pressurising it with a turbocharger, just like Nissan did.
Possible issues with this design could be:
- Uneven wear of the cylinder bore due to the piston travel being dynamic.
- An overboost condition during a high compression cycle could damage the mechanism and even crack the engine block.
- Increased NHV due to regular wear and tear making its way into the valvetrain and transmission input shaft.
This is a good effort and I hope Nissan is able to pull it off. Make sure to wait two years before you buy a vehicle with this technology. Dont be the guinea pig. :)
Haha, this reminded me of a friend who did a summer engineering internship with a U.S. automaker. He came back and related one of the most important things he learned: "never, ever buy a first-run car." I remember hearing him tell about tolerances still being adjusted after all these cars had shipped, cringing to think of all the problems that could cause.
(They had to write their own linter, because they need to ship slightly broken code written by code generators, and last I heard Windows XP is still part of the compilation chain…)
Let's also recognize that shortblock costs will be much, much higher with this design when you need a rebuild. Many engine builders won't touch this, and I'd suspect the Nissan OEMs will say that these engine shortblocks are "factory replaceable only". Who is going to make aftermarket bearings for the multilink setup? How does the engine operate under actuator failure?
The engine should operate OK in case the actuator stops adjust the stroke. There really isn't anything new in terms of parts. They simply took proven implementations of each part and applied them in a new configuration. The biggest issue might be cylinder bore degradation due to the variable stroke. I need to learn more about its lubrication system before I can pass judgement. It probably has some additional jets in the middle shaft that sprays the piston and the bore on different angles. Nissan already uses jets on their turbocharged engines. I just sondas how they might pull it of here. The oil galleries shouldn't be so different from a conventional engine.
And at PSA concern, there is a lllooottt of management! NISSAN is nowhere near the ingenuity and quality they were back in the '80's and the '90's, after all, most of the engineering comes from Renault now, and not Japan. And the Japanese get all the low end engineering designs from Renault, while Renault, Peugeot, and Citroen get all the good engineering in the European models. Ah the "benefits" of being part of the PSA concern!
I remember studying a NISSAN Cherry back in 1988 and my jaw was on the ground with how much cutting edge technology that little car was loaded with (and it was just a city car!), and I look at all the garbage cars NISSAN has been pumping out today... it's an atrocity. Even if I compare the 280 ZX turbo and today's offerings... the 280 ZX is impressive, while today's assortment is something I would be ashamed to be seen in.
Things that would have been considered exotic in the late 80s - like turbochargers or 6 speed gearboxes are now commonplace. Features that are now standard weren't even options.
Compare the iconic NISSAN Skyline GT with a Qashqai NISMO edition, the epitome of garbage NISSAN is pumping out today, and things come into perspective pretty clearly.
One look at 1990's NISSAN Primera and one can see what it meant to be at the cutting edge of aesthetics. One look at any of the NISSAN's today, and one can see what it means to design cars by committee.
Try to find a good looking NISSAN with a diesel engine and a manual transmission today. I dare you!
Take some random engine, now engineer a oiling system that depends on having three different jets at each cylinder to ensure reasonable longevity. Now make the operation of those jets highly dependent on a maximum oil viscosity (small jet, low volume, thick oil would just dribble) and spec'ing the rest of the system for thicker oil (using bigger jets and so on) would be a needless waste of fuel (pumping around lots of thick oil takes more energy than the same amount of thin oil). Now tack on a heat exchanger so you can use the coolant system to bring the oil up to temp ASAP. Wash rinse repeat until the entire system is designed to have every part working together. Now you've got really long chain where any screw up by any supplier results in the whole system breaking down and a bunch of crap engines (or whatever major system you're designing) that wind up getting replaced under warranty at 75k (costing money, damaging reputation, etc., etc.).
The Nissan engine in the article is very much subject to this. Unless they want to leave a lot of performance on the table they've basically got two rotating assemblies they have to get right. That should be easy but for awhile every Hyundai dealership had pallets stacked up with v6 short blocks indicating that it's not that easy.
Oh, most definitely this. My first car, '86 Volvo 240 with the B230E engine, had a coolant leak about two years before we scrapped it (in 2012). When the engine started overheating, you'd turn the coupe heater to max (and open windows all the way), since that tapped into the lowest part of the cooling system, so you got the temp down and could keep going for ~10 miles before refilling with water. Then as winter approached I bought a bottle of radiator fixer (about $20) which fixed the leak, did a full coolant change to get proper antifreeze, no problems afterwards.
That depends on how popular rebuilds are. If this design proves out many engines will go to this and then a rebuilder who refuses to touch this design won't be in the business anymore.
If this design takes 1/10th of a second off lap times rebuilders will quickly not work on anything else, even if for every other application this engine is junk. (in most other applications the engine will outlast the car without a rebuild)
I think this is partly inaccurate. The images show the piston at the top of the stroke; when the compression ratio is high the piston is higher at the top of the stroke. But the bottom of the stroke is the same in both cases. That means the actual length of the stroke--the distance the piston travels--is greater in high compression mode. This is consistent with the definition of compression ratio, which is the ratio of cylinder volume at bottom of stroke vs. top of stroke; a larger compression ratio means a larger difference between these volumes, i.e., a longer piston stroke to get the piston higher (closer to the top of the cylinder) at the top of the stroke.
The compression ratio changes because the mechanism changes where TDC (Top Dead Centre) is.
Or have I misunderstood something?
Edited to add: If TDC moves then the bottom of the stroke moves with it because the conrod is a fixed length, right?
So yeah, I probably need to see an animation to grok it.
- The added maintenance of turbos
- Added cost might not be worth it compared to a hybrid or electric, especially used
The issues I see:
* Regular gasoline explodes from too much compression, if this engine requires premium gasoline it's sort of dead out the door.
* NOX emissions increase with efficiency and in general efficiency increases with compression, there are two prevailing ways to fix this: cheat and inject urea.
* It greatly complicates where all the force is being generated which will probably lead to more failures.
> The higher the ratio, the more efficiently the engine works, producing better fuel economy and, with the addition of a turbo-charger, more power.
> Traditionally, design engineers had to fix a gasoline engine's combustion compression ratio, essentially deciding whether to go for power or economy.
Everything gets better with higher compression ratio, so where's the compromise? As I understand it, the only reason engine makers don't crank the ratio as high as possible is to avoid knocking.
[0] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-japan-nissan-engine-...
Variability in something like a combustion chamber is a cool idea, so is variability in the angle of turbo vanes. The issue is how you do it, affordably, and in a way that lasts the way that consumers expect from their cars.
http://www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine_technology/turbocharger...
A better comparison would be variable pitch vanes on jet turbines.
1) lets the engine have high compression AND a turbo. Typically a turbo is run with lower compression, because even today nobody can make an engine run 14:1 with a turbo. Speculating, when you floor it the compression might drop to 8:1 and the turbo kicks in; then when you highway cruise, it runs 14:1 for efficiency.
2) lets the little engine still hit big torque numbers at low speeds. This is most likely if the engine is variable stroke, as longer strokes improve low speed torque.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/infiniti-prepares-worlds-firs...
We have a lot of techniques to improve mpg that increase NOx. If you can figure out how to easily inhibit NOx formation inside the combustion chamber you could be a rich man.
Incedentally this is one way direct gasoline injection can improve economy. The injector sprays directly into the cylinder, and can do so in a way that forms a little donut of air/fuel mix that is insulated from the walls by a layer of air. It is then ignited. The air barrier helps keep combustion temperatures down.
One last thing, really high compression tends to result in a chamber that is very flat and narrow, which can counterproductively cause hotspots and incomplete combustion because the flame front is restricted. This can be fixed with undersquare pistons with longer travel, but that leads to big, low-power, slow-revving engines, like diesels!
Higher compression ratio = better combustion = more power with less fuel, regardless of turbo.
Higher compression will always mean better fuel efficiency. My moms Mazda CX-5 runs a 13.5 compression ratio and gets 27mpg. The power/efficiency trade off appears when you're talking about turbocharged engines.
Turbos compress air into the combustion chamber, so when you compress compressed air, you get exponentially compressed air. If you don't adjust the compression ratio for the turbo, you're going to get knock. An engine with a 13.5 compression ratio can run perfectly fine on regular gas, but an engine that runs the same ratio and 20 psi of boost with melt itself even on premium gas.
This is a problem for any kind of work vehicle. They almost always have turbos to give them the power to haul their loads with reasonable ease. But this forces the engineers to design the engine with a lower compression ratio, which means at light engine loads, when the turbo isn't doing anything, the engine isn't fulfilling its full potential. It's still compressing air at a low ratio, even though it's not taking in already compressed air. This is where Nissans innovation comes in. The compression ratio will change according to the degree with which the turbo is compressing air. Allowing the engine to run at peak efficiency through the entire range of engine load.
I know where I would put my bets in terms of price, reliability and ease of development.
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2017-audi-sq7-tdi-diesel-ph...
In any case, an electrically assisted turbo is not a replacement for this. This is a way to have high compression at low loads, such as highway crusing, and ability to lower compression when boost is needed for performance.
This is a common misconception of 'turbo lag'. A modern turbo is actually operating at the low revs too. The boost is there. But a modern turbo engine, especially a diesel, has a very narrow powerband, giving the impression that the turbo isn't active until higher rpms. This isn't real 'turbo lag'. Real 'turbo lag' is the delay caused by the fact that the turbo depends on exhaust pressures, which rise only momentarily after throttle increases. But this problem has largely been solved via mutli-stage turbos, lighter turbo parts, waste gates and the like. Real turbo lag, where it is noticeable, occurs at all rpm ranges.
There are a few other undesirable things about high-compression.
And I just read your message about knocking. same thing. Nevermind.
Thanks for sharing, that's actually really fascinating.
the patent for anyone interested: https://www.google.com/patents/US4040294
If you want to get really crazy, imagine a WHRU on the manifold in the form of a Rankine cycle where the expander drives a compressor for the air inlet. Like a thermal turbo, if you will, giving you more charge air than NA but with much smaller parasitic power losses than a mechanical turbo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_specific_fuel_consumptio...
Seeing as this design includes several more moving parts than conventional ones, it's an open question how much reliability and longevity are affected; I remember reading in a book that over the years many have tried to make more efficient engines and succeeded in achieving that goal, only to be let down because of real-world reliability issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Variable_Compression_engi...
If the ECU detects knock, it will retard timing. This works to an extent, but you’re ultimately worse off than if you just ran premium fuel in the first place. The other issue is that (on systems with conventional knock sensors) this causes you to basically “bounce” off of the knock threshold. Knocking is terrible for the bearings inside of the engine and should generally be avoided, but running regular fuel in a car that calls for premium results in the ECU constantly trying to creep up timing (or switch to the high octane map), only to be confronted with knock again.
Anecdote: I'm running a water/alcohol injection system on my 335i (tuned on higher than stock boost). It really helps on the hotter days. Currently, I'm running a mixture of ethanol (everclear) and distilled water. Most people use methanol, but it's not really compatible with the viton gaskets inside of my pump.
variable compression is nothing new, just very prone to failure. the other downside was it was much harder to work on the engine, but nobody cares about that anymore.
This is actually changing the combustion chamber geometry.
The TLDR appears to be: The new engine uses variable compression technology, which [allows] at any given moment to choose an optimal compression ratio for combustion.
> The [new VC-T engine] averages 27 percent better fuel economy than the 3.5-liter V6 engine it replaces, with comparable power and torque. Nissan says the new engine matches the diesel engine in torque.
It will be officially unveiled at next month's Paris motor show
[1] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-japan-nissan-engine-...
[2] http://www.thedailynewsgrabber.com/nissan-on-gasoline-engine...
The other related scheme is the Atkinson cycle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_cycle
The wiki page shows a complicated mechanical arrangement for having a smaller intake volume vs. expansion volume, but the "poor man's" way to do this is to just keep the intake valve open for the first part of the compression stroke. The upside is that you can then adjust the effective compression ratio with valve timing. The downside is that it reduces the intake manifold vacuum by blowing back some of the intake air, not sure how that's handled.
Don't know what the Nissan guys are doing.
At full throttle the turbo is shoving a large mass of air into the cylinder for every firing. The compression ratio has to be fixed lower to control detonation under these circumstances.
At light throttle / cruise there is now hardly any mass of air in the cylinder, so although mecanically nothing has changed (same / fixed compression ratio) we are hardly compressing the air at all and we're giving away a load of efficiency for that reason.
The ability to up the compression ratio at cruise / light throttle claims some of that basic efficiency back.
That's the thesis?
Thanks, but no thanks: I'll just stick to my simple (by comparison) direct injected turbo diesel cars.
When there is a gasoline engine which can ignite the fuel without spark plugs and ignition timing, that'll be the right solution. mazda experimented with this (see "VCCI"), but it never made it into production, because it's not a trivial problem to solve. This Nissan patent is a mechanical engineer's equivalent of a duct tape hack.
Or we could just ditch this entire nonsense with pistons and optimize the Chrysler's super simple turbine car engine until it matches today's exhaust emission regulations. This was a tough problem to solve in 1978, but should be doable now with a particulate filter. And that engine isn't picky: since it's a turbine, it'll run on anything that's combustible, from filtered cooking oil to cologne.
Second, timing by spark means that spark plugs are necessary, so that is more parts, and more parts means higher probability of failure.
Third, spark plugs are needed to start a chain reaction of igniting fuel, because gasoline fuel is volatile enough as not to be combustible. Gasoline fuel is not flammable, but the vapor is, did you know that? That's what makes it volatile as far as combustibility, otherwise we would have self igniting gasoline engines by now.
How many cases of diesel engines with injector problems have you had during your career as a mechanic?
How much does, on the average, a diesel injector cost?
How often do they have to be replaced?
I've worked on diesel engines since I was a little kid, and have yet to work on one with injector problems.
The following are ultramodern mazda injectors, for instance; if you look at the spray pattern and the capability of these programmable injectors, it's pretty obvious it's going to be tough for them to experience problems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDFgiLrEX1o
modern piezoelectric technology is wonderful, isn't it? And wouldn't you know it, all modern diesel engines sport piezoelectric injectors.
But let's suppose for a moment that you are correct, and that I'm wrong. Your logic has one flaw, and that is that in a diesel engine, I will (and have) get three times the kilometrage that you will get with a gasoline engine. Even if I had to replace all of the injectors, I will still have come out ahead. How?
Assuming that you are running the simplest, ultramodern gasoline V8 (I picked V8 in particular because that is the most reliable of the gasoline engines), if you maintain it according to the extreme maintenance schedule, you might get about 460,000 km out of it before requiring a rebuild. By that time, I will have gotten almost 1,300,000 km on the diesel and maybe need an engine rebuild, and that engine rebuild might not even need new injectors, if I changed my fuel filter every 15,000 km (which I do), and every 30,000 km added one liter of biodiesel to my tank!
You don't say.
Most engines already have knock sensors. They're used to adjust fuel/air ratio and spark timing to just above/after where the engine starts to knock. A few engines adjust valve timing while running, which is also complex mechanically, but not as difficult as adjusting compression. Now there's another variable to tweak.
It may take a machine learning system to tune such an engine. All those interdependent variables to adjust make that a hard problem. Different values required based on engine speed, load, temperature, fuel consumption, and emissions outputs. All this is usually expressed as precomputed tables which are interpolated within the engine controller. Those tables have to be developed somehow.
- Will the ignition need to be cut off before the ratio change happens ?
- Will this apply the change to all the cylinders at the same time ?
IMHO mild electric hybrids, or full serial electric hybrids would be a more elegant solution - only run the combustion engine when full power is needed, and use the electric motor otherwise. "full power" could be used to top the battery if it's not all required for motion.
I'm wondering if something like stored kinetic energy like that on the Audi e-tron (a carbon vacuum sealed flywheel) could also be used to ram air into the intake, and how much resistance the air would have against the stored energy.
The old rule of thumb "turbo costs 3x less than super" is true for a lot of cases. Supercharge provides a linear boost where turbo does not.
Formula 1 cars have a mixture: there's an electric motor / generator in the turbo, so that the turbo can be spun up when there's not enough exhaust yet, but the engine needs a lot of air (when you start accelerating). Or the opposite: when there's excess exhaust energy that you don't need for intake charge anymore (when you've stopped accelerating), you can run the motor as generator providing electricity for batteries. Since the turbo rotation speed is so high and torque small, a relatively small motor-generator will suffice.
It's never been clear to me that they are really all the great of a fit with terrestrial engines. Part count goes up, heat goes way up in spots and there is of course lag.
Not to mention that diesel engines are pretty much useless without a turbo.
Attempts to mitigate those, without cheating (e.g., VW), have proven difficult.
The real problem is 5-10 years later when these systems need repair or replacement. For many the economic temptation to have them "nulled" is too great (fuel efficiency is improved by removing the DPF) - and that once-clean diesel is now a toxic, polluting nightmare.
This is a huge problem in the UK - and why we need to phase out diesel in private/light motor vehicles.
A visual inspection for the presence of the DPF is required, but this is easily defeated by installing a look-alike "null" filter.
The people doing the MOT testing can be pretty shady anyway. Since any mechanic can operate as a testing facility, it's often the same people who remove DPFs that will then pass them in the MOT inspection.
The thing is, even brand-new "clean" diesels are still worse polluters, for toxic particulates and NOx, compared to petrol and petrol-electric hybrid vehicles.
London already has a disincentive on diesels coming into effect by 2019, when pre-Euro 6 (i.e. older than September 2015) diesel vehicles will be subject to a £12.50/day charge to drive in London.
There are calls to extend this to cover all diesel vehicles, eventually leading to a total ban:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/18/ban-dies...
Licensing of new diesel taxis will also soon be prohibited in London, and all single-deck busses will be zero-emission by 2020 (and double-deck busses will, at minimum, be hybrids).
Edit: looking at the posted image, they change the stroke depth of the power linkage. That plus valve timings let them customize the entire combustion cycle.
This is speculation.
I think there isn't much improvements to be had for engines at full power. But lots of room for improvement at partial power. Interesting bit, hybrid cars have really low emissions. Which says to me they're avoiding running their engines at power/rpm ranges that create high emissions.
http://www.nissan.com/Lawsuit/The_Story.php
Cybersquatting is obnoxious, but once they found out it was the guy's actual name, and that he was using it to run his own business, they should have just accepted he had a right to the site and worked to buy it from him or moved on.
Certainly there's a give-and-take between lawyers giving advice and clients taking it, but by the "big X" their lawyers essentially do what they are told - lest the big client move elsewhere.
All to say: Lawyers doing a bad thing are often a symptom of an internal disease or conflict.
Which is to summarize a whole host of conflicting emotions: I'm slightly defensive about the profession, wholly sympathetic to the outcomes of wielding lawyers to achieve evil ends, and biased by personal experience – but nevertheless appreciative of comments, like this, that highlight the responsibility that lawyers bear to not only advise and act but to represent the reputations of institutions.
So I should have said I'm less than enthused with their legal strategy, rather than placing blame on a specific group of people.
GC definitely has an obligation to provide guidance on legal strategy before following the board's demands, and maybe they did so. Impossible to say where things broke down in this case.
Well, people defending themselves about doing bad things by stating that they are just doing what they are told are rightfully criticized. Even more so when they are in a high end profession.
There are good reasons why EVs haven't dominated yet--cost, range, flexibility, etc. Battery technology hasn't changed all that much either: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-batteries-arent-getting-better/
Someday EVs may dominate, but it's doubtful that will happen in the next 5-10 years unless there is a large technological leap.