Women’s Gymnastics Deserves Better TV Coverage
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>One of the factors preventing Americans from appreciating just how difficult it is to do what an Olympic gymnast does is the fact that competitors are expected to perform their routines without betraying any evidence of effort.
I've stopped reading twitter/news due to this constant moral chiding. I don't understand this (recent?) obsession with pointing out how Americans are stupid/ignorant/racists/misogynists/shallow. Wish we could keep this kind of stuff out of HN.
Only egomaniacs overestimate their own virtuousness and underestimate everyone else's.
If you believe (as I do) that the media is mostly in the business of giving people what they want (not what they say they want, but what they actually choose to reward with ad impressions) then they are exactly the same.
So yes there are dumb people in the US and NBC wants them to tune in. But, that says little about the rest of the US population.
So do most athletes, honestly - especially those at the Olympics. Weight lifters hauling up double their weight above their head? Swimmers who have muscles strong enough to dislocate their own joints? Pole vaulters hefting themselves two stories in the air? Cyclists going 40+mph down roads with minimal protective gear?
The capabilities of even the worst olympic contenders boggles my mind. They should all get air time.
It's becoming rather annoying how "holier than thou" the modern American has become. What's so distressing, is that these authors/people, never recognize their own shortcomings, but are so adept at pointing out others.
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The Huffpo is about as far as you can get from the Summer of Love as humanely possible. Regressive liberalism is a real thing and barely recognized. It seems liberals have very much bought into shaming and apparently it gets results (ad revenue, facebook likes, etc).
Is it too much to ask in 2016 for a single web page that lets me filter down to each event and see all the heats leading up to the final? Or how about a single page with all the events happening live so I can put the one I actually want to watch?
http://www.nbcolympics.com/live-stream-schedule
or do you mean this?
[0] - http://results.nbcolympics.com/schedules/ [1] - https://www.nbcolympics.com/live-stream-schedule
"Look! The American took 3th place! Let's interview her and show a little mini-biography of her life and not even show or mention the Australian and Chinese competitors who took gold and silver!"
The BBC feed for weightlifting has been excellent (and it's a sport that needs it, with more 'meta' strategy than many things), while NBC's coverage has been US-obsessed and tepid-to-awful for pretty much every competition.
I found the making of videos they have on that page interesting. Basically the OBS are the ones doing the actual filming and broadcasting of all the Olympic events , and then all the broadcasters of the world rebroadcast that. They also provide all the onscreen graphics.
So NBC could send down a tech crew and an uplink truck and we would still get full coverage of the Olympics minus all the color commentary.
If it really bothers you I think that a decent proxy and the BBC iPlayer can get you good all-around event coverage...or so people have told me...
Presumably The New Yorker recognized that "women's gymnastics is getting shortchanged" is a better human-interest story than "the US Olympic coverage is terrible", but the second option has more substance.
[1] (No idea if these only work in Germany... )
http://rio.sportschau.de/rio2016/live/Alle-Livestreams-von-O...
The olympic games are also covered without commercials. Maybe NBC is spicing things up to make sure people don't go away during commercials?
I (male) really enjoy watching all gymnastics (both female and male competitions). I always sort of admire people who can perform feats that I cannot do (I used to watch Bob Ross for hours, for example. I know, kill me, but I was mesmerized by his works).
Anyway, one day I was watching the female competition and a relative told me that it was "creepy to be watching girls." It kind of took me aback. Since then, I avoid it.
There has been this sad evolution in our society where adult males interacting with girls or teenagers in a normal way is still considered "creepy." Sadly, I don't hug my nieces anymore, for example.
It's sad.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the drop in stats.
It is sort of like that line about "If we outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." It is tautological. And it would be really nice if more men connected with women for non creepy reasons instead of decent men bailing because, gosh, WHAT WILL ASSHOLES THINK????
Assholes gonna asshole. You cannot let them set the standard.
Regardless, everybody chill and just tell me this is not out of this world:
Please, please do hug your nieces (and nephews).
So a relative with "issues" gets to determine what you watch? I don't know what your perverted relative is watching (has NBC gotten that bad?), but I'm watching athletes pour their hearts out in a gymnastics routine.
Now that our team is doing better, I can see there being an interest in broadcasting it better.
This made me curious, as it didn't match my recollection. Checking the medal counts, it's apparent that the USA women's gymnastics team has been very competitive for roughly 30 years now. It's fair to wonder why the coverage isn't better by now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_medalists_in_g...
That kind of jives with my recollection how medals were distributed.
The US women's team was very competitive in the 90's and 00's.
Gynmastics was a Big Deal then.
Gymnastics has been hugely popular in the USA during my entire life (more than 40 years, I'm afraid).
Mens generally doesn't get the same attention in the US, but the womens team tend to be some of the most highly recognized and reported on during and after the games.
Additionally, I didn't get a single hint NBC was characterizing these gymnasts as 'teenage pixies,' or trying to deceive the viewer to ramp up the drama. NBC let the images do the talking, and the US team was a picture of control, power, and intensity.
Last night the US had essentially won the competition before the floor exercise, but still, as NBC showed the US gymnasts warm-up, I was overcome with a realization of just how powerful these young American women are and how well they represent the United States to the rest of the world. Tears swelled.
After Raisman's transcendent floor routine, NBC showed her parents in the stands. Despite being nervous wrecks in all the previous camera shots, they looked on expressionless, probably coming to an unknowable realization of their own. Raisman eventually walked over to her bag at the side of the arena and the Chinese team basically lined up to pay respect and show their admiration. The crowd started chanting Ali's name, which I've never heard at a gymnastics event.
I hope the critic wasn't consumed with the inane chatter of the internet during these moments. Then again, here I am engaging in the same. I just wish journalists would stop treating opinions from the internet as legitimate and representative, particularly from Twitter.
And the Irish weren't in the competition. So, no opportunity for extra rah rah nationalism.
With the best will in the world, most people seeing any sport in the olympics probably aren't actually following that sport. As a result, trying to get people up to speed so they can understand why the judging scores are what they are, at the same time as they're trying to watch the action, is never going to work. This is only further hampered in something like gymnastics, where the scoring is incredibly detailed and complex, and the time someone's doing something is so short.
Whilst I wish people were more informed about what they're looking at, I get the impression most people don't really care that much, and just want to look at what olympians do and be astounded at it.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
Basically if it requires judges it will be limited in its mass market appeal.
Sports that require judges:
- Aren't going to appeal as much to men as a whole. Men like clear rules and clear outcomes. Boxing is probably the only popular sport that's often not clear - but it has knockouts and TKOs which help clarify.
- Will have a lot of off-putting or repetitive banter because you have to explain how the judges rate things that aren't obvious and sometimes make no sense. The judges and commentators can come across as snooty & pretentious too.
- Often leave a bad taste in your mouth if your perception of the winner is different.
Additionally, I didn't get a single hint NBC was characterizing these gymnasts as 'teenage pixies,' nor trying to deceive the viewer to ramp up the drama. NBC let the images do the talking, and the US team was a picture of control, power, and intensity.
Last night the US had essentially won the competition before the floor exercise, but still, as NBC showed the US gymnasts warm-up, I was overcome with a realization of just how powerful these young American women are and how well they represent the United States to the rest of the world. Tears swelled.
After a transcendent Raisman floor routine, NBC showed her parents in the stands. Despite being nervous wrecks in all the previous camera shots, they looked on expressionless, probably coming to an unknowable realization of their own. Raisman eventually walked over to her bag at the side of the arena and the Chinese team basically lined up to pay respect and show their admiration. The crowd started chanting Ali's name, which I've never heard at a gymnastics event. It was high Sport and great TV.
I hope the critic wasn't consumed with the inane chatter of the internet during these moments. Then again, here I am engaging in the same. I just wish journalists would stop treating opinions from the internet as representative and worth responding to, particularly those from Twitter.