Comment by CodeSheikh | Hacker News Reader

Comment by CodeSheikh | Hacker News Reader

Tbh there needs to be a better and respectful transition for old people. Someone who is 60+ and demands to be employed in a job that a younger person can do than I am sorry to say this but the younger person deserves a chance at that opportunity. You had 40 something years to save and build for your better future. It would be unfair to argue that "no the younger 20 something person has many more years to come to save and pave for his/her future". What most people seem to ignore is that 25-35 years in ones life are the prime and career pivoting years for people, make or break kind of years.

The similar problem is with the old people stubbornly not leaving government and policy making jobs. Someone who is 70+ does not have the right to make a policy for a generation who is in 20s and such policy can be (potentially ie.g. climate change policies) badly implemented for years to come. Why 70 something are even allowed to run for an office, heck currently both presidential candidates are touching their 70s. Please go retire to Florida or spend time with your grand kids or travel the world.

Also, there is a large number of well off old population living in dense urban cities. Take Manhattan borough in NYC for example. The city is very unique and always bursting with opportunities. Say a twenty something moves to NYC after college to work for an ad agency or a famous designer or a start-up but limited funds force her to live in eastern Brooklyn just to make ends meet. She spends and waste 2+ hours everyday on useless commutes. If the rent would have been cheaper and more affordable in the Manhattan borough then more young people can live nearby to the opportunities and make better use of their time. At the end of the day it is the game of money. Whoever has more money is always in the lead, where the young ones don't get fair opportunities in order to get ahead in this game. Unless daddy and mommy loans you their city condo (which many do).

Also, well off old people do not (frequently) invest in order to create opportunities for younger generation. We don't hate you, we just want you to adhere to natural, sociological and economical cycles.

Why does someone who is 30 yrs old have a right to make policy for one who is 70, but not vice versa?

It's a democracy, you know.

By the way, it is the boomer generation that coined the term "Never trust anyone over 30.". Ironic...

Because when the now 30 year old was 0-18 they didn't have any say in the economic policy or leadership decisions.

Expecting an expiration is fair turnabout. There are some 17 year olds who work (I did) and maybe should've been able to vote. There are some 70 year olds who shouldn't be doing either right now I think. Just postulation.

Wow.. I don't know where to start..

< but the younger person deserves a chance at that opportunity. You had 40 something years to save and build for your better future.

Work harder and be better than the older person... Business is blind and choses the best.

< Please go retire to Florida or spend time with your grand kids or travel the world.

When you get to be 70 your body is failing and your sentence is a dream to the majority of older people. Most older people are like Fussell's Class, "Out Of Sighters." I suspect your comment was from one of a rich(er) perspective.

< Someone who is 70+ does not have the right to make a policy for a generation who is in 20s

There is a couple on my route that do not have kids. They are very active in their political party. They enjoy politics like others enjoy knitting, golf or reading. They are retired. I once said to them something to the effect, "Why do you care [about Obama and all the ills, etc..], you don't have a ticket into the future - you didn't have a child. It would be like my deceased childless uncle setting policy from his 1930's living room in New Jersey for me when I was born in the 60's." I reaized I was strong in my opinion, and they truly never gave it much thought. I will agree with you that the young people should set their destiny, not people my age. I have moved out of the way, so to speak. My opinions are less important than my son's and his generation. I think any reasonable parent would want that for their kids.

But I do see something I never recall when I was growing up in the "Heidi Bowl" and B&W to color transition days of life": A lot of people have a lot of money, and they seed their children with a very good start. At least half of the new howe owners on my route are under 30 children/couples who have been significantly helped.

So before you bash all the 70 year olds out there, they may be funding your spouse someday!

Your "Wow" threw me and gave me a suspicion that your reply will be biased :) Please allow me to clarify my statements and see if I can make any sense. (FYI i have two older parents as well and the whole point is not to "discard" old people instead create parallel opportunities that would require less consumption of resources. Honestly speaking medicinal science has caught up to the point where more and more people and enjoying longer lives but the economy is slowing down and consumption of natural resources is increasing.

And yes my comments were mostly targeted at richer older people. Come live in Manhattan and see it for yourself what I am talking about. I dont want to spend my life in NYC or SF. I want to spend 10+ good years here to learn and contribute towards the industry and move out of here and give the resources to younger generation instead of hoarding on them. My perspective my comments they are all revolve around urban dwelling and not most of the older class living peacefully in suburban sprawls.

I am sure I am baised, I just don't know how.

< people instead create parallel opportunities that would require less consumption of resources.

I get that. How?

< I want to spend 10+ good years here to learn and contribute towards the industry and move out of here and give the resources to younger generation instead of hoarding on them.

I get this too.. and actually, you are way ahead of me as compared to my "youth" I wanted to be CEO and thought it was going to be as easy as a proof in geometry which required no effort.

Aging is a funny thing. Viewed from afar it is understood by way of observation. Viewed from inside it is understood by reflection.

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