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Jason Scott from the Internet Archive commented on Lars' blog post, offering to maintain the archive up at the same domain gmane.org https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/com...

This is undoubtedly good news, and prove once more what fundamental role the Archive has on the internet. I personally hope they will not only keep the content up, but will continue Lars' work on actively running Gmane.

The Archive is a 501(c)(3) non-profit and lives out of donations. https://archive.org/about/

While I agree with your sentiment, that's not what that comment says at all. It's about getting a copy of the data into the Internet Archive, regardless of what happens to gmane.org itself.

Right. I somehow mixed up my own wishes with what Jason Scott's comment actually says. Moreover, in the comment after that Lars writes the sentence "I hand over the gmane.org domain to you". I mistakenly took that for a reply to Jason, and understood that "you" was Jason and the Archive -- nope, Lars was saying "here’s what I hope somebody could make happen", and "you" is still undefined at this moment. So the future is uncertain.

Though Jason Scott's post seems more about archiving, @FiloSottile has made a post about offering to host the front-end going forward:

https://twitter.com/FiloSottile/status/758979930453520384

I really hope it's an open-source/community project.

I've been experimenting in running my own mailing list archive for a while now, if for the time being you need an alternative (and the lists you're interested in happen to be one of the more popular open source projects), you can find them here: https://marc.ttias.be/

If a project like GMane was being managed and developed by a single developer, it makes sense that if that one person wants out the project dies. There were already offers made to take over the project and host it elsewhere, I'm feeling fairly confident that GMane will eventually survive.

To those who have volunteered to take over, might I suggest that you form a coalition or board?

Might I further suggest that you solicit someone famous in the FLOSS community to be chairperson (perhaps with responsibilities limited to vetoing bad ideas if necessary).

Tldr: op couldn't be bothered to even make a petition, but instead is petitioning for a petition to keep gmane from closing.

Protip, to keep things like this going, send money and or provide actual services to the operators.

That's another non-profit project, maybe they don't have the resources to host Gmane too but just wnats to help via informing their community, spreading the word and getting counted? Why not be a bit more considerate? And this when the operator is definitely retiring out of wear, not because lack of money, which nobody is asking ATM.

As a Slashdot comment points out, CloudFlare could protect the owner from DDoS attacks with minimal effort on his part.

Edit: The original original post already talks about CloudFlare. The reference was lost in an Internet game of telephone.

Please no, I like being able to read gmane privately without having to solve obnoxious captchas every time.

You can have it both ways: use CloudFlare and offer direct access through a hidden service (since DDoS attacks over Tor are impossible, expect for application layer attacks).

What purpose does the cloudflare captcha serve in that scenario?

And lots of people who aren't Tor users also have to suffer through the captchas every time they visit a CF site.

For 200$/month.

they run an NNTP server, not just a website. So cloudflare would not help with that.

The DDOS targeted only the web server. The NNTP server (news.gmane.org) is on a different server and actually still running just fine right now.

I have no idea what their traffic requirements are, but CloudFlare has a generous free plan.

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