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Just buy Raspberry Pi 3 and you will have 64-bit ARM desktop hardware...

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The raspberry pi 3 only runs in 32-bit mode right now [1]. There is no 64-bit kernel for it currently.

[1]: https://www.linux.com/news/raspberry-pi-3-still-essentially-...

The raspberry pi 3 runs in 32 and 64 mode. There is no >>LINUX<< 64-bit kernel for it currently...

Exactly which OS runs on rpi3 in 64-bit mode? Because Windows 10 and RiscOS ain't it.

Author is asking for 64-bit ARM hardware, not software...

You, however, were claiming, that rpi3 does run in 64-bit mode, just not with linux:

> The raspberry pi 3 runs in 32 and 64 mode. There is no >>LINUX<< 64-bit kernel for it currently...

To my knowledge, rpi3 has 64-bit CPU, but all operating systems and bootloaders available run only in 32-bit mode, no exceptions. That means that rpi3 in future theoretically can run in 64-bit mode, but certainly does not today.

You are claiming that you know >>all<< operating systems and bootloaders and that >>all<< run only in 32-bit mode - with no exceptions... a big claim about your knowledge...

So you know even all non-public bootloaders and OS-es...

Pee bootloader runs on the gpu, so that doesnt matter much. Current bootloader can bootstrap ARM in 64bit mode, as is evidenced by freebsd port and https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1379... (all but the gpu works)

Have not tried this myself, but it seems like FreeBSD does: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11226386

This information is out-of-date. See:

https://www.kraxel.org/blog/2016/04/fedora-on-raspberry-pi-u...

Whoa - really - this is interesting. Why did they do this? Memory too constrained?

My understanding was that the limited memory meant that it wouldn't be very useful, and they wanted to make sure that software for the earlier Pis would still be 100% compatible, and vice versa.

The author is looking for something that can replace a conventional x86 based desktop. You can't plug SATA disks directly into a Pi (or boot from them), you can't directly mount it in an ATX case, you can't plug more RAM into it, and you certainly can't attach an Nvidia GPU either.

The Pi 3 is strictly inferior to the ODROID-C2 and Pine64 in the areas he cares about - less RAM, slower I/O, proprietary bootloader that can't even boot 64-bit kernels, etc. Plus it still doesn't use a standard PC form factor. It's not even cheaper either.

It's not developer class desktop hardware, at least for native code. Good for all kinds of things, but doesn't satisfy what the author is looking for.

I finally saw a retail package in an actual store right next to the drones. Quite a selection of packages (e.g. bare, complete, etc.) too. It is one of those, "I know what those are" purchases since there was no support material (signs, books, software) around them.

Does any software actually enable the 64-bit mode yet?

Not end-user usable software, as far as I can tell. It appears that some people have built 64 bit kernels but with many features broken or missing.

Ultibo may soon be working in 64-bit mode: https://ultibo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60

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