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I'm a college student in Shanghai, and my classmates and friends' attitude towards the party is almost opposite to what you said, I'm afraid.

As to what other people say in Xiaonei, which is a site I'll visit everyday, many people there are complaining about the network censorship in China. On the other side, it's also a site censored by the government, which means users' comments, blogs and updates will soon be deleted if they contain illegal keywords. It doesn't allow free speech at all. So what you see may not represent the majority.

On the other hand, many of us has access to twitter, using SSH tunnel/API/proxy or something else to jump over the wall. And what you see on twitter may differ greatly on what you see in Xiaonei. Sorry for my poor English :P

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This is misleading.

Among the posh, well-educated elites who aspire for jobs at US MNCs this may be true.

The rest of the masses are very much one-sided in support of the CCP. At the very least, even if they are sympathetic to Google's cause, at the end of the day the masses will always believe that China (and the CCP by extension) > Google (or any other western MNC).

That is the reality for the vast majority of Chinese - both online or otherwise.

The China vs Google issue is not really about internet freedoms in the eyes of the polity as it is in the eyes of westerners. Rather, its about a western MNC trying to "bully" the Chinese into adopting their (western) values. This line of thinking; westerners bullying China has been pounded by the CCP for the past 60 years so its very easy to troll that line to great success.

>westerners bullying China has been pounded by the CCP for the past 60 years so its very easy to troll that line to great success.

Actually it was 'trolled' long before the CCP came in to power by revolutionaries, and most likely citizens.

The history of China has been miserable for the past two centuries, culminated defeat in opium wars and wars with Japan has resulted in compensation with land and money. Several unsuccessful civil uprisings has also cost many lives and ruined the economy - many people in that time lived in poverty!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#Dynastic_rule

Your English is just fine, essentially indistinguishable from native speakers :)

I've seen the same thing. My cousin's friend (Chinese) who is in Canada for school acknowledges the Chinese gov't has problems, but is even more anti-west. And from what I've seen on the internet (www.chinasmack.com) the "netizens" don't see the chinese government favorably either.

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