Inside an L.A. OxyContin ring that pushed more than 1M pills
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But if you can already buy any drug on the street, a doctor should be able to prescribe medicinal heroin to an addict and get them into the system to monitor them for treatment, with the end goal of getting them off of drugs. Putting unknown chemicals of varying strength and quality into their vein is what kills addicts. They do not typically OD because they are suicidal, it's because they unknowingly bought an extra strong stamp and then die.
I grew up in Massachusetts, and had a high school graduating class of around 300 people, and 6 people have died of overdoses in the last 10 years. One of the most popular girls in my class died a few months ago. I firmly believe that allowing her (and everyone else) to get her opioids prescribed would at the minimum keep her from overdosing, and let people who care know she has a problem. Dying on a toilet with a needle still in your arm is a terrible, useless way to die.
Opiates are bad news, and physicians unfortunately were duped into prescribing way too much for the last ~15 years.
You think that by banning opiates no one will get opiates? The methadone clinic two blocks from my apartment, and the people who panhandle around it and the subway station, and the needles I walk past when I cut through the tennis court, do not show the government's laws are solving the problem. As a physician you may see the emotional side, but logically I would love to hear your solutions to the problem.
Logically, I would love to hear your solution to the problem...
Banning stealing, rape, and child pornography is nothing like banning drugs. Completely, totally, 100% unrelated and by trying to loop all of them together you disregard logic and sane, rational arguments.
If you go without eating for a day or two, your brain really drives you to find something to eat. Same thing happens with some drugs - within varying degrees.
When I tried to give up smoking cigarettes hundreds of times, my body really felt like it was dying by not having the nicotine around. I eventually got passed it. I haven't had one in 8 years.
The drug laws do nothing more than make addicts bad people. It makes it harder for them to get jobs when they get busted. These guys were just trying to survive - their brains rewired to do that.
They really need to get rid of the drug war. Take that $50 billion a year and spend it on mental health/addiction research - instead of killing a bunch of people on the border. Provide some treatment centers. Let people be anonymous when attending. Get the courts and criminal records out of the equation.
I've known some very smart addicts over the years. The tragedy is they get worse and worse - and they have no way out without getting a very negative stigma attached to them. Some end up unable to get jobs. It all because of our laws.
We would be much better off educating our population honestly on drugs (think of how dishonest the refer madness propaganda was). Keep the drugs available, in clean, reliable doses. Help people addicted get off the drugs. Learn about the cycle. This is much better than the system we have now.
I happen to share the experience to shrugging off nicotine addiction. It was very easy to get hooked [peer pressure played a role], and surprisingly hard to get rid of. In my case, took a few weeks of fighting my body with reason. From what I hear, opioid addiction is stronger, thus I'm having a really really hard time believing that having over-the-counter opioids that anyone can "try a few times" is going to be anything but a major disaster.
The best strategy for most people is to never use opioids. Simply not worth the risk of ruining one's life for a very short time gratification. Given the reality of rebellious teenagers / young adults, I'd much rather have no easy legal path for opioids. Sorry, no opioids in a supermarket locker that you can get by just showing your driver license. On the flip side, I believe we should still crack down hard on dealers, to keep pressure on the supply side.
Which leaves us with the people caught in the opioid trap. While we already fund addiction research, see https://www.drugabuse.gov/international/research-funding-lan..., we probably could do more. We already have rehab clinics where at least some form of palliative care is to be found, though we should seek to make rehab and rehab clinics a better experience. Whether that includes availability of drugs, I frankly haven't seen any relevant research indicating that's a good idea, and I see some evidence [prescription abuse, see the original article] that it is rather dangerous.
A more relevant metric would be number of overdoses per number of total doses, no?
If there are 50x more prescription opiate users than heroin users and 10x more prescription overdoses than heroin ones that still implies heroin is more dangerous.
http://www.latimes.com/projects/oxycontin-part1/
It seems patents, drug marketing and insurance reimbursement are the cause of this epidemic.
> Over 20M pills prescribed, wreaking havoc far beyond just Florida.
Many of the people that were taking these pills have resorted to heroine now that Florida has enacted better oversight
Suddenly that little green pill that barely gets you off anymore looks a lot less appealing for $1/mg. Especially once you discover how cheap and widely available heroin truly is. A $10 purchase of heroin gets you exponentially more bang for your buck.
It's not a long journey, especially once you've walked half way. You can't regulate or price someone out of an addiction.
> More than 194,000 people have died since 1999 from overdoses involving opioid painkillers, including OxyContin.
Wow, that's about 12,000 per year. :(
[0] http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/AADR_drug_poisoni... [1] http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/htt...
Heroin is a different story, since there's no telling how potent a particular batch will be until you do some -- if it winds up being significantly stronger than what you're used to, it can be easy to do way too much. You also have various adulterants to take into account, including fentanyl which is often added with "worthless" adulterants as a cheap way to keep the qualitative potency of the effects up while significantly cutting the product. The thing about heroin is that you really don't know what you're getting -- this is a very different story when you're getting pills, unless you're happening upon counterfeits.
This would be equally as possible with oxycotin.
Most likely because the statistics aren't available.
> Moral arguments apart, they are simply not in the business of reporting their patients to law enforcement, nor they ever should.
Why should they be allowed to be in business at all when their product is so destructive?
I don't think it's that simple.
If you're going to start doing heroin--which you shouldn't--oxy is a much safer form than street level heroin where you have no idea what you're getting.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman ODed and died because he didn't know what he was getting. Heroin is actually pretty safe, but it destroys your soul and you never really "cure" the addiction. Even still, I'd rather have oxy out there than tar heroin from Mexican drug cartels. And I'd rather spend government resources on something else.
Just for clarity many people are getting oxycontin from the street, which leaves them open to counterfeit product. At $60 to $80 per 80 mg tablet there's considerable pressure to create counterfeits.
shockingly, changing the formula did nothing to quell the demand for abusable oxycontin formulations, leaving the market wide open to anyone willing to press their own chinese powder. chinese powder doesn't strictly mean oxycodone powder, either.
the counterfeits are often filled with cheaper, more easily acquired, more potent fentanyl analogues. fentanyl and it's analogues are active in microgram dosages. that's why heroin addicts are dropping like flies coast to coast, even heroin is being cut with the cheaper, exponentially more potent fentanyl.
Is this true?
These opiates, while easy to produce in a lab, are active in very small amounts (at the microgram level.)
As a result, if a batch of heroin isn't fully mixed, you end up with "hot spots" in some doses, where the fentanyl content is high enough to kill you.
This is how one of the first young women I met at university died. We grew apart, and one day she stopped responding to my text messages. A few days later I found out via Facebook.
When someone dies of an opioid overdose how do you know which opioid they overdosed on? How do you know they were using oxycontin or oxycodone?
Technically a time-release mechanism, it was easily defeated by anyone with a razor blade or a wet paper towel.
They aren't different drugs, and I'm sure Purdue has a finger in the oxycodone pie other than simply brand-name Oxycontin.
A little bit of old-fashioned police work would easily reveal what prescriptions a person was prescribed, a search of their personal property would reveal paraphenilia related to their drug use. Empty oxycontin bottles would indicated an oxycontin overdose. An empty syringe would indicate heroin abuse. Spent patches would indicate fentanyl abuse. etc
In this spreadsheet, the most granular category is Opoid Pain Relievers: https://www.drugabuse.gov/sites/default/files/overdose_data1...
Oxycontin's market share seems to be around 20%: http://www.jefferies.com/CMSFiles/Jefferies.com/files/Confer...
I don't think drug companies are held to account on whether doctors prescribe illegally...however they do get criticized/prosecuted for how they market their drugs: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/#__ffn_s...
Federal law, namely 21 CFR 1301.74(a) disagrees with you. And they're not reporting patients, they're reporting doctors that that are humongous outliers for prescribing certain painkillers.
But nobody is monitoring when a doctor prescribes tons of opioids. Prescribing something seems like a privilege granted by the state, so clearly it should be the DEA monitoring this, but apparently this article is more keen to blame the salespeople at the manufacturer?!
That article found some data and twisted it into a conspiracy.
http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/InformationbyDrugClass/u...
The prescribing doctor and clinic were quickly identified, by worried pharmacists and by the sketchy manufacturers.
This was during the time the "war on drugs" was pretty full on, and the risks of opiate prescribing were well known.
How did the various systems fail?
We see this across a range of different industries. People sort of report some concerns, but they often don't do it properly.
Sometimes that means mildly defective product is shipped. Other times it means many people are harmed.
There was a submission several years ago about an accountant who somehow got wrapped up in massive amounts of fraud. He said that many people along the way could have stopped him, and he didn't make much effort to perpetuate the fraud. He would just ask people to fill out that bit of paper, or to wait a few days before sending some other bit of paper, and they all just thought "he's okay, I'll do him this favour". Individually they were little favours. Collectively, it was pretty big.
(I'm trying to fidn the link now)
But I'm struggling to find the HN submission for it.
Fortunately my current codeine prescription ("take 15-30mg as directed as required") gives me a fairly wide latitude - most days I don't need it at all, but on a bad day can take 15mg every three hours or so.
The regular dosing is generic.
That's all.
OxyContin would not exist if not for q12h dosing.
That's exactly what the article describes, though. I feel like you didn't read it. They detail, at length, a system for keeping track of doctors and pharmacies who over-prescribe and over-order Oxycontin.
It's almost like they did the bare minimum, enough to have some plausible deniability, but not enough to actually be responsible. Oh, and then only after they knew the doctors were out of business (read "already arrested, charged, sent to trial") did they belatedly say "oh hey, you might want to look at them".
When it would do nothing to harm profit, but so no-one could say "you did nothing".
Probably the same when Morgan Stanley and the big banks were financing the wars. Let the money flow, make no noise.
A system for keeping track of them and then largely ignoring them. Purdue had all the information they needed, and they mostly sat on it and dragged their feet. That's arguably worse than if they had been completely blind.
What is the point of HIPAA and medical privacy if anyone can log in and see what scheduled drugs you're taking? From the drugs you take I can pretty much derive your medical history. I consider this a much larger problem than the 'war on drugs'.
The war on drugs is a masterful play. It's a free pass for law enforcement to circumvent your rights, to search your vehicle (via warrant dog), to enter your home (via anonymous tip), to review your doctor's records, to surveil your activities, to seize your cars, cash or real estate without due process. It's the master key for an authoritatian police state and the selective targeting of undesirables.
> you can't buy effective
> decongestant
Science has a solution:http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/better-livi...
1. Keep as many innocent people as possible away from drugs.
2. Help as many junkies recover as possible.
3. Fuck the dealers.
Legalizing drugs seems to reduce the risk for dealers, now having their posh addiction-driven business at the mall, while increasing the availability of drugs for the untainted population and for the junkies. Are we really that concerned by dealer's quality of life that we willing to tradeoff the lives of our neighbors, friends or even family?
The margins on legal good are a whole lot less than illegal ones. You'd be putting most dealers out of business overnight by legalizing.
Question, though -- why does legal pot cost the same as illegal pot used to in places like WA? It seems there is still a large amount of profit to be made from growing and selling pot, although I guess (pretty much by definition) that money is no longer going towards criminal enterprise. Is it just high taxes?
The tax money from legal drugs can be put into prevention and rehabilitation. We can measure the effectiveness of prevention strategies just like my current government measures their anti smoking and alcoholism prevention strategies.
Tax dollars made by my regional government from selling cigarettes went into a program here for a free long term supply of nicotine patches. This policy combined with other anti smoking initiatives have worked we now have the lowest rates of smoking in the country. Nicotine cessation therapy is proven to work. I don't understand why heroin or meth is not treated the same even when there is data that methadone does not work as well for treatment http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/vancouv...
The truly evil dealers, the violent street gangs who prey off the mentally ill and homeless addicts are impossible to bust because of how they have set up their operations to avoid prosecution by employing the desperate junkies to hold and sell small amounts of product 24hrs a day, while low level gangsters, who handle no evidence, run street security. The police if they arrest these addicts simply go to court for minor possession and are released the next morning. The low level gangsters are routinely arrested for violence while debt collecting or running off other gangsters and a replacement is there the next day. Sometimes they get them on conspiracy charges but it doesn't matter, they're hardened criminals who consider prison a cost of doing business and again somebody else replaces them and their operations change to adapt to a police crackdown status. Police have been fighting these gangs as long as I have been alive but the availability of narcotics remains steady. They have changed their policy to management of the drug war now, propping up one semi cooperative gang by turning a blind eye to their activities in exchange for intel on rival gangs, as to prevent a more violent and unstable gang they can't control from taking over and turning the streets into a warzone.
For a long time, I believed that we're better off legalizing all drugs and making them available to anyone who wants to buy them. But I've had a change of heart recently.
People simply aren't in control of themselves when they're addicted to these substances. The crooked doctors, the pain clinics, and all the complicit organizations in the supply chain profit, while millions of people lose their human agency to a chemical that alters their mind and transforms them into irrational drug addicts. It is very difficult for them to recover, and very easy to relapse. It is a human tragedy of enormous proportions. It tears apart families, ruins childhoods, and creates poverty. And at its worst, it takes lives.
We have to take care of our people.
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But the majority of people serving sentences for drug crimes are there for selling drugs.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/top-10-marijuana-m...
"About 40,000 inmates of state and federal prison have a current conviction involving marijuana, and about half of them are in for marijuana offenses alone; most of these were involved in distribution. Less than one percent are in for possession alone."
Remember that distribution of weed, while it sounds relatively harmless, is very often controlled by violent gangs. It's like getting Al Capone for evading taxes. The best solution is to legalize weed and put it in the hands of legal businesses.
Also:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/releasing-drug-offenders-...
There he shows that releasing all prisoners who are in jail with drug offenses as the most serious charge would only reduce the prison population by about 14%. This is counting both distribution AND simple possession. Not insignificant, but not the headline figure of 50% that you often hear.
So without more details about the particular state laws, it's impossible to know who was really jailed for "possession alone" vs "distributing".
Because giant corporations are 'less evil' than the gangs.
looks at virtually every major corporation's use of cheap, offshore labour, sometimes child labour
At least the gangs are upfront about killing people.
Abuse should be treated as a medical problem, not a criminal problem. We need to take the cops and lawyers and the prison industry out of fixing it.
Implementing the drug laws in practice targets the poor and minorities.
American prisons would have plenty more room to keep pedophiles in prison and off probation if the cells weren't packed wall to wall with non-violent drug offenders.
Not much of an argument IMO
So all your drug war has accomplished is to compound the abuse problem with a horrible criminal underclass, a vast and militant law enforcement regime to contend with it and an insidious corruption of people and institutions throughout our society. Despite all of this real damage your drug war doesn't actually save people; millions have been killed through drug abuse and millions are addicted today despite your drug war and the huge amounts of treasure spent to wage it.
Is it conceivably possible to conduct your drug war so vigorously that it actually stops the bulk of this criminal activity and actually saves people from abuse? Yes. It is possible. You're going to need a GULAG system and a near total elimination of your civil rights because you will need to inflict enough misery and suffering on a large enough fraction of the population to generate sufficient fear to make the rest comply. The trade of valuable, easily concealable products in a liberal market economy is impossible to stop without such measures, which is why your drug war will never work, no matter how badly you feel about the tragedy of abusers.
So please, reassert your rational mind; your drug war is doing more harm than good.
The drug war has been a total disaster. It's thrown much of Latin America into chaos, with their governments unable to contend with the sophistication and brutality of drug cartels that rake in billions from the most lucrative drug market in the world, the United States. It's also a massive source of revenue for the criminal gangs that plague our cities within our country.
The laughable propaganda from the government has also totally undermined important anti-drug messages. The ridiculous claims about the dangers of weed, for example. The reefer madness stuff. The DEA's insistence on keeping weed Schedule I. It's actually given rise to an equally ridiculous myth: that weed is totally harmless. But more importantly, it's undermined the message against harder drugs. If the government is lying about weed and shrooms, then people will think they're lying about other drugs as well.
If we don't win the cultural battle against drug use being acceptable, then all is lost. You're right that no amount of law enforcement can change that in a liberal democracy. But assuming that battle can be won, this is what I think needs to happen on the legal and military end:
I say legalize weed and other drugs with lower abuse potential; this will immediately destroy the largest segment of the illegal drug market. For hard drugs, stop imprisoning people for possession. Withhold the first arrest for simple possession from the public record, so it doesn't show up on background checks and destroy people's ability to get a job. This will create the public support for what must come next: come down like an iron fist on the weakened organized crime groups that have lost their largest source of revenue. Exploit internal strife caused by dwindling revenues, turn some people into informants, and then put away the rest for a very long time.
The second biggest drug market is cocaine. Almost all of it comes from Colombia. Once the current peace process falls through or fails to stick, the US needs to help Colombia finish off the FARC completely. Unconditional surrender should be the only acceptable outcome. A complete commitment to ending mass coca production in Colombia should then be a condition of their friendly standing with the United States.
Marijuana is easy to obtain and cheap almost everywhere in the US, and in some places it's even legal, yet people still abuse a panoply of other drugs. Here one may read a recent story about growing methamphetamine abuse in Colorado, a state that has had legal and extremely high quality marijuana for several years now:
http://www.cpr.org/news/story/meth-use-colorado-has-police-a...
No, we need to accept the fact that some fraction of us are going to hurt ourselves, whether with liquor, stimulants, hallucinogens, etc., help them as we can, and stop self-inflicting the damage and costs of our doomed attempts to control things that are inherently uncontrollable in a free country.
I don't want any "iron fists" in our justice system on behalf of the "drug war." Those that would ruin themselves with legal drugs are a far smaller problem than the extreme violence, endemic corruption and law enforcement embiggening we've self-inflicted trying to save them from themselves.
I care. I have family members that I grew up with that have ruined their own lives with drugs. But I never forget that every one of them was born after we declared our "drug war" and it didn't do them one damn bit of good.
Drugs will always be with us, but not like this. We can reverse the tide of destruction. There are entire communities being ravaged by the current heroin and prescription opiate epidemic. I refuse to accept that this is just the price of modernity. America wasn't like this before and it doesn't have to be like this in the future. We can build a better society for our children.
Run PSAs, perhaps require a waiver before sale. But people are in pain (both mentally and physically) and opiates are by far the most effective treatment. (Sure, they don't work for everyone, etc. etc.)
This abstinence mindset is as harmful as it is in sex education.