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21ºC for us non-Americans. That would be a pleasant year's worth of weather for me, given that the winter temperature in my Canadian city can reach -35ºC in the deepest part of winter.

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You can come to Mexico City, with a min. 14ºC Daily mean temperature in winter and a max. 20ºC in summer. It's basically Spring all year long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City#Climate

That is quite tempting. I think that's my optimal temperature zone!

Just don't breath the air.

Guadalajara has year-round nice weather too I understand (I've visited, but haven't lived there) and has less pollution than Mexico City. The area around lake Chapala is supposed to be very nice if you don't need the trappings of the city.

Wow, I had no idea about that. TIL. I always thought all of Mexico was very hot year round.

Mexico is a very large and geographically diverse country. You can find desert, grassland, rainforest, swamps, snowy mountains, beaches, ...

Like half of Mexico is at least a mile above sea level

Try a summer in Hermosillo https://www.google.es/?ion=1&espv=2#q=hermosillo%20weather

Mexico City is 7200 feet above sea level. Keeps it quite nice.

They say that Cortés returned to the Spanish Court to report to the King on his conquest of México. King Carlos V asked him to describe the lay of this new land adjoined to his kingdom. Cortés asked for a piece of paper (still an expensive luxury at the time) and, instead of drawing on it, he shocked the court by crumpling it into a wrinkly chaos. That is the topography of México.

It's similar to Medellin with an average high around 22ºC all year.

check : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn#Geography_and_cl...

average high is 27 centigrade. average temp is about 22.

It gets pretty hot in the springtime, though. The low summer temperatures are because the monsoon pours up from the ocean and peters out over El Águila's 4000 m peak (14000 ft) into light rain showers every day in the early afternoon in the Valley of Mexico.

True, the climate in Mexico City is ideal. If it wasn't for the traffic. ... and the dramas in erremexico ;)

Spent a month in Mexico City ("DF"!) about a year ago. I was surprised to enjoy it as much as I did. I'd seriously consider living there if it weren't for the pollution.

Pretty similar to the bay area: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=mexico+city+2016+tempe...

Bangalore has similar temprature range on average.

Thanks for the conversion. Whoah, that's cold.

I'm guessing he lives within a few miles of the American border. It gets a lot colder than that up here. I remember in college trying to find a kitten on a farm that escaped the house for a girl I was into. No idea what the temperature was, it only had markings to -50c (-58f) and all the mercury was in the reservoir. Unfortunately, it doesn't take long to freeze a little kitten in those temperatures.

Yep, Calgary, Alberta. I wager that the folks from northern Montana have the same weather as us.

I grew up in Edmonton and you have to be honest, -35C is an extreme temperature that is only rarely reached. Almost every winter gets to -20C or -25C but -35C can happen but isn't an every winter let alone every day occurrence.

And anyways... it's a dry cold :-) Winters here in southern Ontario are fairly mild but they feel worse to me than where I grew up. A damp -10C is just awful, so hard to get rid of the cold feeling everywhere.

It's usually the deepest part of the winter - I think we'll usually get one week where it's -30 and dips (occasionally) beyond, with the rest of winter being -25C at its coldest.

North Dakota and Minnesota are colder than Montana (at lower elevations too). Take a look at the climate data for Fargo, ND for instance, significantly colder than Calgary. It's colder because it's more continental, and you often see a big bubble of arctic air dipping down on the weather map.

Calgary is a bit of an outlier, they get a weather phenomena called chinooks. It's not uncommon for them to get several periods throughout the winter where their temperatures are above freezing due to these chinooks.

I'm surprised any creature would leave relative warmth for temperatures 50 below (either scale!). Even for a girl.

A true northern winter redefines your sense of cold if you are from a more mild climate. The ambient temperatures sting any exposed skin and freeze any moisture (like the inside of your nose or condensation as your exhale) almost instantly. Add in a strong wind and you can feel the heat being sucked from your body even if you have a good winter coat on. Visually, everything changes. Snow piles up so high you can't see over it, humans travel down narrow lanes where the snow has been cleared, everything gets caked in this dirty grey powder of ground up snow, ice, and grit, sun dogs appear in the sky, plants are stripped to skeletons of their summer mass, and you start to see a side of nature that is often invisible (specifically animal trails). I've lived in Minnesota for 10 years and still love the winter and the excitement of a good snowfall!

As an Angeleno, that last sentence does not follow from the rest of that horrific description.

Stockholm syndrome.

He left out SAD and a general sense of having to live a full year's worth of life condensed into the three months where it's tolerable being out of your house.

Even the most winter wary Minnesotan will venture out far more than three months of the year! Spring, summer, and autumn are fantastic here as well. The winter can be long, but if you get outside and enjoy it, you find that you look forward to large snowfalls etc. A mid winter holiday somewhere warm also helps!

I'd take the northern winter over the LA smog and traffic any day (and I say that as someone who loves visiting LA!).

Do not let these other less hardy commenters make you think you are alone in appreciating winter – there's literally dozens of us!

> you can feel the heat being sucked from your body even if you have a good winter coat on.

I've felt that! At -25C 100km/h north wind at a bus stop I think it's my soul being ripped out not my body heat.

70/21 is cold?! Damn. That's pretty much the top end of my comfort zone. I'd trade this humid, oppressive southeastern US summer every day of the week for that.

     the winter temperature in my Canadian city
     can reach -35ºC in the deepest part of winter.

     21ºC for us non-Americans

Funny you said that:) "By the end of the 20th century, Fahrenheit was only used as the official temperature scale in the United States (including its unincorporated territories), its freely associated states in the Western Pacific (Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia and the Marshall Islands), the Bahamas, Belize, and the Cayman Islands."

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit

To continue the curiosities, the º sign that was used is the spanish ordinal marker of masculine gender. The degree sign is °.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_indicator

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