I still don't get how you can have any kind of verification of state if you make transfers off of the blockchain. After all, that's the whole freaking point of the blockchain: verifying the integrity of the transferred item, verifying the entire network state, and ensuring that fradulent coin cannot enter the network. But then, I suppose that's why I'm on XT's side.
As for Raiden itself, I think that the forthcoming return of the Snake network will largely bring cheer to those who dislike it, and largely overshadow it. [JOKE]