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Comment by wallace_f | Hacker News Reader

>Ah, one of those comments.

Please don't be condescending and derisive in your argument if you politically disagree with them. I'm sick of seeing that, and it's almost always not productive in an ethical way.

Everyone has the right to be heard and share their opinion. If you are right, then you can win your argument on its merits, not on how you frame your opponent.

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The other comment was condescending and name-calling - this one was just pointing that out.

So don't diminish your own argument by dropping to their level.

What is the condescending insult you're referring to by the way? Lefties?

I would say yes, given that it's such a simplistic framing of the situation - the impression given (whether intended or not) is ah, those liberals and socialists with their multicultural dreams! When will they wake up and see that it doesn't work! The response was fine

And the original post that referred to "neoliberalism" as the root of all our problems isn't being just as simplistic in their reasoning?

Neoliberalism is a phenomenon with quite well defined characteristics, so no.

'Lefties' used to dismiss another's point of view as invalid withiut actually explaining why is just baselessly tribal and antagonistic.

Oh, no doubt about that, it's distinctly unhelpful in any political conversation (unless the aim is to deliberately trying wind up the other person in the conversation)

Well, for the very reasons discussed here, that's debatable due mainly to it being turned into a snarl word, mainly by those on the left-hand side.

But yeah, definitely so re your second point, it is needlessly antagonising, and destroys measured political discussion (as it always has and always will)

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