They democratically elected to basically jump off a cliff so you can't blame the media for having the time of it's life.
And referendums aren't always a good idea, prop 8 in CA was overturned because we eventually realised its a bad idea.
And referendums aren't always a good idea, prop 8 in CA was overturned because we eventually realised its a bad idea.
Scare-mongering. If you have to be in the EU to be able to trade, yes, to survive, then it is time to destroy the EU once and for all. No single entity should be able to terrorize the citizens of a nation state like that.
He said jumping off the cliff. That is literally just saying the Brits won't survive. Besides, England will be able to make a trade deal with China (something the EU doesn't manage to do). Medium- to longterm, the benefits for the British people will be vast - and I'm not even starting to argue about political independence.
How about the trade deal Britain will make with the EU which is currently its main trade partner (both imports and exports)?
I notice you use England, possibly a mistake but it seems this is the underlying attitude of the Leave vote - England is better off by itself. Which strikes me as frankly hilarious given how much we have to offer the world besides grumpiness, self deprecation and financial services...
I meant to say Britain so yes it was an error. The tensions between England and Scotland (and to a lesser degree Gibraltar) are unfortunate, especially that the leave vote increased them again. Same with northern Ireland tensions. I have no opinion on whether or not they are supposed to stay together since this seems to be a problem rooted deeply in culture that I might not be able to fully comprehend.
Apart from the campaigners on each side of the referendum.
Basically the whole thing descended into "FUCKING IMMIGRANTS TAKING YOUR JOBS, THATS WHY YOU DON'T HAVE PUBLIC SERVICES"
and on the other "YOU WON'T HAVE A JOB IF WE LOOSE THE EU. YOU WILL DIE OF AIDS"
Sadly people have been conditioned by various parts of the media to just see immigration as the reason for public service cuts. Not stopping to ask them selves, who makes the decision to cut the funding...
And this is entirely the fault of the political class, who wanted to mask cutting public services to pay for tax cuts for the middle class.
And now we have this right fucking mess, which will take many years to un pick, and I suspect will lead back exactly where we were before, just paying more, and having less influence.
The concept of sovereignty is secondary in most cases. A lot of the votes "up north" were based on the assumption that public services are shit because of immigration.
Talk about hyperbole. Plenty of countries like Switzerland or Norway don't feel terrorised by the EU, instead exist peacefully alongside it. Plenty more want to join voluntarily.
Another fact that seems completely ignored- you can't put a price on deliberately creating links so that European powers don't tear each other to pieces, just like they have done for thousands of years. The EU deserves credit for minimising the likelihood of devastating war, which has happened for much of recorded history in Europe.
The utopia of a united Europe is what caused all of the devastating wars - whether it was under the guise of a Spanish empire, a Napoleonic empire or a German reich. Whether it is done by military, political or economic power, it always backfires.
We are different people. What we have in common is mostly Christian religion and Christian morals. Or rather the purified, distilled secularised version of it called "humanism" now.
But some visionary always comes with this radical new idea (actually a thousand years old) that we are somehow all the same and should all be in some sort of union. And it always ends up in war.