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it's not sad, it's a good news. The EU was only about trade regulations, nobody is thinking that we are EU but only think I'm French, I'm German, etc. How do you want that this is working? US have done nothing special, they only use the same money, and it's still splitted in "nation" then it's the same, different rules, different culture (rage against Spanish in some state, rage against black in other). We are not united, we are all alone in this war. When people will start to say "I'm a citizen of the world" and stop thinking that they are "French, US, etc." maybe the world will go better.

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>they only use the same money, and it's still splitted in "nation" then it's the same, different rules, different culture

Have you ever actually been to the US?

This was your best argument? I don't have been there then I can't have a judgment? Do you really thinks that people from Las Vegas take care of other states when they get all the water from other state? are you telling my that this is a global country where problem are solved in a global manner? No. This is true everywhere, even in UK you have not the same culture in the nord than the south.. check the result of the votes... even in my small country you can see the difference of culture between big town and small town.

You tried to compare the US to Europe impying that US states are functionally equivalent to countries of Europe, sharing only currency but differing in laws and society (and, weird example you gave, the people they hate). Cultural differences in the US are largely regional, usually having little to do with the borders of a given state. The federal government is made up of officials elected and appointed from all states and is governing over all of the US. Laws enacted by Congress aren't then approved or enforced by state legislatures, they are decided by those elected to the national legislative body by all citizens of the US. So yes, this is a country where matters are largely decided at the federal level. You overestimate the influence and power of state (and local) governments.

Maybe you'll visit some day and see what it's actually like!

I can visit, I will probably do it but this will not teach me everything's in two weeks or more. What you didn’t understand (my bad explanation) with my statement is that people can live in a big country, have almost the same rules, votes globally etc. there still will be a huge difference between culture of people (rich, poor, etc.) It’s why the EU is falling down, everybody does not pull at the same rope. People still use history to say that they are a country when we are just the same, human mixed by a million of years of sex. It’s just a loop, “country” like cells get bigger, fall and split. Let’s do it again and hope that we can do things globally.

That wasn't an argument, it was a question. One that was asked because what you said seems so ignorant that the best explanation for why you'd say it is that you've not been to the US and have no real understanding of how its government works in practice.

You can go to a country and still don't understand how he works. You can also live in a country and still don't understand how he is working it's not a proof of something. There's a lot of debate between local power and government power but hey I don't know how it work. Thanks for the nice exchange and the arguing.

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