Squeak 4.0 released - now under MIT/Apache license - The H Open Source

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I'll always have a soft spot for Squeak. And still don't totally understand the damn thing.

Pharo is pretty slick, http://www.pharo-project.org/home. And Gilad Bracha of Strongtalk and JVM fame is also doing interesting work with Newspeak, http://newspeaklanguage.org/.

If you haven't already, you should have a look at the free Pharo by Example book. http://www.pharobyexample.org/

The Blue Book (Smalltalk-80: The Language and its Implementation by Adele Goldberg and David Robson) is quite old but still one of the best book about Smalltalk. You can get it for free in PDF.

Or the equally fine http://squeakbyexample.org/

I keep reminding myself I should do something on top of Squeak/Seaside. Is anyone using it?

I am. I hack in a lot of different languages/environments, but I'm still most productive by far in Squeak.

That's very cool. I am using (and like it) Django a lot, but when compared to Squeak, everything looks rather primitive.

Guess I will run out of excuses soon. ;-)

Nothing new except the license.

Good call. BTW, after having fun with Squeak and VisualWorks for a long time, I have switched to the Squeak fork project Pharo (http://www.pharo-project.org/home).

I should have mentioned: Pharo uses the Squeak VM, but has its own (derived) sources and image files. When I give kudos to Pharo, those complements apply also to the original Squeak project.

Another great project being built on Squeak (although the Squeak/Smalltalk underpinnings are being replaced) is Gilad Bracha's Newspeak: http://newspeaklanguage.org

Primary source: http://squeak.org

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