Pretty much this
I understand the refugees are in a difficult position, but there is a limit to the help that can be given (which should be obvious)
If MSF doesn't want the money that's fine.
I understand the refugees are in a difficult position, but there is a limit to the help that can be given (which should be obvious)
If MSF doesn't want the money that's fine.
If the receiving country has no room, is broke, and its citizenry are on the edge of starvation, then that's one limit.
Somehow I don't think that's the limit you are talking about, but that's the only obvious one I can think of.
What do you think is the limit, and why do you think the EU countries already past or even near to that limit?
If you disagree, my suggestion is that you take in your house as many refugees as the number of people that currently live in it.
> If the receiving country has no room, is broke, and its citizenry are on the edge of starvation, then that's one limit.
Oh of course, let's destroy whole countries otherwise people like you will think they're racist and petty. Genius.
Sweden is also far from becoming like Syria.
If Sweden's policy is the limit, then most of the other EU countries fall far short of the limit you are concerned about.
The difference between being charitable and naive is a thin one.
> Sweden is also far from becoming like Syria.
Let's hope so. And while I agree most of the "news" on the Internet about Sweden are crap, Sweden has an important gender imbalance and increasing problems with violence
Also nobody speaks anything and pretends it doesn't happen because "it's racist". Like: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/11/swedish-police...
> then most of the other EU countries fall far short of the limit you are concerned about
Portugal and Spain are looking for more people but it doesn't seem anybody wants to go there.
Then why aren't they taking more refugees?
I know it's a matter of wording, but no country "takes", but has people apply for asylum either before going or when there. Though Canada provided transportation to those approved.
It can be said that countries might need to facilitate/advertise this more (and not only in Europe). Some South American countries took some people as well (not as much as Europe though)
Oh and Poland received a lot of refugees from Ukraine (some say around 1Mi)
If it helps, feel free to interpret my use of "taking" as short for "taking in", with meaning of "to admit; receive".
Everyone agrees that there are material limits to what a country can provide. It is indeed obvious that there is a limit to the amount of help that a country can provide.
But raverbashing used a bait-and-switch argument, to say that because there are limits, we (people who live in the EU), can now prevent refugees from entering the EU countries.
What I asked is clarification of what those limits are, and how they were determined.
One limit is "tolerance for foreigners." That's certainly a limit. Is that the limit that raverbashing is talking about?
Another limit is "there is no place to put them." Sweden has problems with that.
I can think of other limits. But none are the sort of existential limits that everyone agrees exists.