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Have you looked at the ingredient labels? They are still crap. Salad is Iceberg lettuce, may as well eat cardboard. Salad dressings are high sugar highly processed fat free crap. Wraps are made with HFCS and a bunch of preservatives.

(Not saying most fast food is better, but McDonalds is about a 10/10 on the crap-o-meter).

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You're wrong. The salad is a mixture of kale, romaine lettuce, and other ingredients. Looks like you haven't looked at the ingredient labels.

Southwest Grilled Chicken Salad: Ingredients: Romaine Lettuce, Baby Spinach, Carrots, Baby Kale, Lollo Rossa Lettuce, Red Leaf Lettuce, Red Oak Lettuce, Red Tango Lettuce, Red Romaine Lettuce, Red Butter Lettuce. Ingredients May Vary.

Source: http://www.mcdonalds.com/content/us/en/food/full_menu/salads...

  Ingredients May Vary

I should hope so. Chicken is not listed there, in any form!

Speaking of which, a general note: never, ever buy anything with Mechanically Processed poultry or pork... or at least read about exactly what that means first.

That was copied and pasted from the Salad ingredients. The full list is at http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.salads... (click "Nutrition & Ingredients")

What is your objection to mechanically processed meat? Sure, the process doesn't sound appetizing, but it's a way to ensure that all the meat on an animal is used, which IMHO is a good thing.

Also, for what it's worth, neither chicken nuggets nor the beef patties at McDonalds are made with mechanically separated meat anymore.

If it meets your definition of "meat", by all means stick with it. Just be aware of what MSM really is.

The beef patties never were (it's illegal -- do you know why?) Their chicken nuggets originally were.

It seems like MSM is awesome, from a quick Googling. Humans really should be eating bone marrow, organs, etc. to get full nutrition from our meals - and the process reduces waste, which means less animals can be slaughtered.

I totally get why cow MSM is banned, considering mad cow disease.

By all means, dig in, then. You can have my share. Lots of Sara Lee brands sausages and such (e.g. Hillshire Farm) have loads of it.

But it's mainly connective tissue with little nutritional value -- padding. And I'm not satisfied that pork MSM is completely safe from prion disease.

It probably depends on a country as MacDonalds restaurants are often franchise and use mostly local products. In my country it's entirely Iceberg too.

Products are standardized not by the franchise, but by the company. Franchise owners cannot use anyone but McDonald's suppliers. In your country they probably haven't rolled out the new menu items, when was the last time you checked?

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