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All of those features sound awful to me. I don't want AI scanning my text messages and "anticipating" what I want to do. That's just way too creepy. The photo stuff, irrelevant. I realized long ago that I never look at my photos later so i stopped taking them. But if I did I don't think I'd want Apple slurping them all up to run recognition algorithms.

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>The photo stuff, irrelevant. I realized long ago that I never look at my photos later so i stopped taking them.

I'm sure this makes photography irrelevant for everybody /s

I've been jealous of Android adding those features, but I never considered using them because of the privacy implications. What excites me about Apple doing it is that they seem to really focus on maintaining privacy. I'd love more 'AI' on my phone if they can pull that off!

During the keynote, they mentioned the face recognition and other ML processing happens on the phone hardware to protects your privacy.

Oh good, well at least it's not being calculated on a device with a constantly scanning promiscuous radio.

If someone hacks your phone, they can get your photos regardless of whether your phone is doing facial recognition on them.

Yes, that's exactly my point. The article portrays the facial recognition as "safe" because it occurs on an iPhone. iOS is not a secure enclave, and pretending that it is can be very dangerous.

If it's closed source and you have little-to-no control over the software, how much of a difference does it make?

Interestingly the results of this still end up on iCloud by the looks, and it back fills from iCloud (will that add big battery drain for first install of iOS 10?)

All of the machine learning happens on-device and Apple never touches your data. Only your own phone touches your data.

Is that data never synced to the cloud?

What happens if you lose your phone. Do you lose all your photos?

At the moment, no. Each device you have to process the same data locally and doesn't get sync'ed. You can clearly disconnect the network and see it work in Photos.

> What happens if you lose your phone. Do you lose all your photos?

Not sure what you're asking as this has nothing to do with AI or anything being discussed here.

If you don't back up your data or use Photos iCloud Library to upload your photos automatically to your iCloud account, then yes, you lose all of your photos.

That's nothing. For years, iPhones have had this creepy technology which scans what you're typing and anticipates which word you're trying to type. It's Steve Jobs' greatest coup: getting millions of people to willingly let their phone AIs spy on every letter they type.

Viva la vida! Down with the robot revolution!

"He Who Controls the Keyboard, Controls the Universe" — Baron Harkonnen, probably

> I realized long ago that I never look at my photos later so i stopped taking them.

Just wait 'till you have old enough kids (and, later, grand kids).

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