LEDs Are Set to Revolutionize Greenhouse Farming (2014)
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Solar cells capture a wider spectrum than plants (plants are green ergo not green eaters).
At what levels of efficiency do solar cells and LEDs have to be before you receive a net gain by having the solar cells in the sun instead of the plants. How far away from that are we now?
Underground farming in arid regions seems like the best scope for something like this.
In my old system, I used bottle fly larvae to feed the fish so the energy input was less (waste refuse that would have been composted anyway) . It was the least fun part of the system because of the "gross factor" of maggots.
Micheal Polkas claims 10 calories of energy in for 1 calorie out in our current intensive farming, so any improvement at scale promises returns.
This sort of mediated growing environment seems quite interesting as an approach to managing agriculture as environmental changes from global warming progress. In some areas, perhaps conventional greenhouses would suffice alone. But in others, underground agriculture might provide an additional buffer against climate changes. This would allow normalization of growing conditions in regions where the climate has drifted and/or become unpredictable in ways that would severely damage agricultural output.
Apparently at high illuminations you want to be using green too - the issue is that red and blue are absorbed so well that they don't make it past the surface of the leaf and thus the plant quickly maxes out on them, while green light penetrates further and thus reach more tissue.
So when you see pictures of leaf greens being grown under purple light - that's because leaf greens actually need less light than other vegetables, you probably wouldn't want to do that with other crops.
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High-efficiency solar cells are about 20% efficient across the daylight spectrum.
For some reason, no one gives hard stats on how much energy LEDs waste as heat, but the claims are that incandescents waste about 90% of energy input as heat, and LEDs are about 80% more efficient than that. So let's say LEDs convert about 80% of input power into light at their operating wavelengths as a guess.
So if we put these together, we'll get about 16% of the input daylight back out as light at the wavelengths we want.
According to wikipedia [1], about 47% of light that falls on chlorophyll is wasted because it falls outside the ideal range for plants (400-700nm). Another 3% or so is lost due to wavelength conversion. The rest we can't really do anything about because it has to do with biological limitations. Put another way, our total system has to be about 50% efficient to be better than just putting the plants in the sun. As you can see, we're not even close. In fact, it's not even possible since the theoretical maximum efficiency of solar panels is only about 34% [2].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiency [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shockley%E2%80%93Queisser_limi...
Theoretical maximum electrical efficiency of LEDs is over 100% though, as light is a form of heat.
(Yes it has been already done: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds)
Not an expert so I can't vouch for its veracity, but I'll inline it:
"This can theoretically be more efficient than growing plants under sunlight. Chlorophyll mostly absorbs light in the 400nm to 700nm band which is about half of all the photons that hit lights. Even in that band ~24% (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthetic_efficiency) of the energy in them in lost due to the higher energy photons (closer to the 400nm side) being converted to lower energy photons.
"So right there plants are only 25% efficient at collecting energy from photons. This is why you see indoor plants grown under red LEDs. Modern commercially available solar panels are about 21% efficient so that is actually getting close to plant can do (I'm not going to include inefficiencies in power conversion right now). Solar panels in the high 40% efficiency range exist, but they are crazy expensive and only used on things like satellites.
"So using current (very advanced) technology we could actually get about double the plant output per area land by using the most advanced solar panels we have to collect light energy to power LEDs."
In the real world wind energy probably works out much better.
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Sure it's great for optimizing land use. Agricultural land is cheap. The real question is cost.
Yes, deserts are even cheaper than agricultural land. But that isn't the problem.
The problem is the upfront capital cost of building an underground greenhouse system, the solar panels and getting the water.
Yes, once you have all that, you can produce more efficiently than normal production. And in a couple of hundred years[1] you will actually be ahead.
[1] No, I haven't done the maths. Maybe it is 10 years, but the point is still the same. It's never going to produce the profits needed to make an investment of that magnitide[^1]
[^1] Unless you are growing drugs.
Building underground is crazy expensive (albeit very cool sci-fi), why not (cheap) above ground.
I think arid regions are kinda cheap for land so why not just a glasshouse? Put solar panels beside it, should they work.
Even if the land is very expensive (And localize food production makes sense), floor one is plants, flood 2+ is for businesses.
Building multifloors underground is the same structurally as above ground.
Exceptions might be places like London where regulations stop you building up.
I had the idea that there is so much untapped potential in selective breeding of cannabis after reading about various terpenes and their medicinal properties.
The market's just been breeding for ridiculous THC levels (I daresay harmful levels - unfortunately I know several heavy smokers who have been institutionalized) without the CBD to balance it and without exploring the role of the other chemicals.
So I'm happy to hear that this is changing! (Like that news of a 15% CBD 1% THC strain from a few years back)
I wish you the best of luck!
My interest in this has to do with the idea that in the 1970s, CBD and THC levels were both around 1%. THC has skyrocketed but CBD has not.
THC is known to trigger psychosis and paranoia in sensitive individuals, while CBD reduces anxiety and was found to be as effective as other anti-psychotics.
TL;DR too much sativa not enough indica :)
Iceburg seems to be intentionally useless. Romaine starts to have a little flavor. Leaf lettuces have a wide range of flavors.
The result is a very flavorful salad- intensely bitter with much less crunch.
Optimizing for anecdotal data is one of the things I'm working on, it's amazing the depth you need in selecting specific traits to breed into plants.
No one tastes locally grown produce and thinks, "this is OK, but I really prefer the flavor of the produce that's genetically engineered to not bruise as easily in shipping."
http://sweets.seriouseats.com/2008/09/chocolate-cocoa-butter...
They do not seem to have accounted for the fact that the "waste" heat from current solutions reduces the overall heating bill. Of course, electrical heating is not usually as cost effective as other methods.