What would it cost Apple to make iPhones in the U.S.?
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Relevant quote from article:
Apple had redesigned the iPhone’s screen at the last minute, forcing an assembly line overhaul. New screens began arriving at the plant near midnight.
A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.
“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”
Extreme sugar coating with MBA lingos of forced labor camp.
I am GLAD there's no such American plant.
And the fact that the American Apple executive admires it with the terms of flexibility and such.
But yeah I see your point that the workers live in a dormitory environment and not paid much and woken up at the last minute to switch from plastic to glass.
My criticism of Apple, one criticism is using slave labor in China to make their phones and other devices. But then almost everyone does the same thing with China. You can't treat human beings that way as it causes stress and mental problems. Many burn out and that is why they have suicide nets installed. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103798/Revealed-Ins... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
You're not forced to work extra hours. You can quit and find a better employer. What you don't understand is that in China workers from rural area can hardly choose where they want to work. They are not living in a free society. Please to compare you're situation to theirs.
12 * 2 = 8 * 3.
Introduce an 8 hour day and you can hire 50% more workers!
China is a dictatorship which provides capitalists slave like workforce. The capitalists get their slaves and can hypocritically point fingers at China and how bad communism is, and the corrupt Chinese government gets his money. Everybody is happy (except the victims of that cynical farce). That's shows the power of PR and persuasion. I remember 15 years ago people still protesting against China at its terrible working conditions in the west, or against the treatment of Tibet by the Chinese government. Who questions that today ? nobody, not even lefties.
Of course Apple could build the iPhone in the west and sell it at the exact same price. It just wouldn't be as profitable as it is and would require significant investments on infrastructure and factories but the "market" wants high return on investment, not just profitability. Worker's rights arbitrage is how corporations like Apple, any textile manufacturer or hardware manufacturer got so rich.
Anybody who thinks that scheme made things cheaper needs to look at the insane debts most western countries are running. That's the hidden cost of all that system. That high debt is a sign the quality of life will go down in the west in the foreseeable future.
If the US and Europe required that as part of the certification process for sale the labor also had to be certified, it would make their economies more competitive while simultaneously raising quality of life abroad. It seems like an obvious win, even for a corporate congress, so i don't understand why it hasn't happened.
And what about the majority of iPhones which are not for sale in the USA? Can they be made with "slaves" since their destination is not the USA?
And if not (because Apple is a USA company) what keeps Apple from leaving the USA to escape the "no-slave law"? If Apple can't leave the USA in order to hire "slaves" to build phones for the non-USA market, how can they compete against a foreign company which can use "slaves?"
And if said foreign company builds an iPhone competitor using "slaves" for a cheaper price than the USA-made phone, how do you combat the black market in the USA for these "slave phones?" You just invented a local law enforcement problem.
Who in the US can authoritatively certify Chinese labor?
You certify it just like anything else that is hard to inspect: require companies to sign binding documents that certify their goods as in compliance with the law, and fine them when proof is found this is not the case. It doesn't get rid of violations, but it does cut them down a lot.
And what about the majority of iPhones which are not for sale in the USA?
Just because one country jumps off a bridge, everyone else should follow suit? I find this kind of reasoning neither here nor there.
what keeps Apple from leaving the USA to escape the "no-slave law"
Nothing except profit. Why walk away from the most profitable markets you have, even if due to new legislation the profits are a little less obscene than they used to be?
how can they compete against a foreign company which can use "slaves?"
Because foreign companies wouldn't be able to use slaves if they want to sell their goods in the US or EU.
how do you combat the black market in the USA for these "slave phones?
There's already an illegal cheap phone circuit, for stolen phones. Besides, it might be a good thing if crime rings start pushing phones on people instead of pushing drugs. It would also be amusing if people would steal phones to fence them for money to buy illegal phones.
You can keep finding nits to pick, but ... I see point nor reason to do so.
On the other hand, free trade leads to freer exchange of information, ideas, and aligns the incentives between nations so that cooperation is more beneficial. Powerful economic interests on both sides will have strong incentives to pursue peace. If those incentives are removed, nationalistic forces and firebrands have less of a counterweight to pursue miltaristic or aggressive policies.
As an example, think about the trade embargo against Iran. It was basically a declaration of war on Iran from the whole world. If the US institutes anything comparable with China it will be easily considered by China as an open act of hostility. This is how the Cold War 2.0 gets started.
Labour laws per se do not violate mfn or nt, so long as the labour laws apply domestically as well as to imports (since trade wars are essentially about import tariffs).
The primary reason we do not apply labour law to the producers of imports is because labour is poorly organized, under funded, and lacks political will and/or forethought.
The sanctions were are digression from international norms meant to coerce an equally disruptive violation of international laws - the covert production of highly enriched uranium and the illegal development of nuclear weapons.
The implementation of trade restrictions on Chinese goods would probably start a trade war, and another Cold War seems to me to be a plausible outcome. I agree with your conclusion on that point.
And to a certain extent, american workers can choose to quit and try to find work elsewhere. There is no "freedom of work" in China for people coming from rural areas. It's a bit like H1Bs in the US. They can't choose where they want to work. When you don't have freedom of work you're basically a slave to your employer and you don't really have the freedom to quit.
Perhaps Trump's next construction should be 100% American as well, as opposed to his previous ones:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/08/trump-tower...
That's his qualification to be sure. However, he's running on a platform where he wouldn't afford others the opportunity to do the same.
> I'm sure he will change and be more presidential after elected.
They always do.
I seriously doubt that "assembled in America by illegal immigrants" would be in the spirit of Trump's request of Apple, even though that's how he attained the wealth to put himself in the position to make that request.
These jobs are becoming obsolete, and delocalizing to countries with lower labor costs is only a step before factories become fully automated (and some companies are reshoring because robots are becoming cheaper than outshore workers). The workers here that are left with no job and no marketable skills should be manifesting for an UMI instead of asking to politics & companies to keep the factories here.
I agree with you but I've been wondering for a while if it's not a bad idea for the west to pass the tedious stuff off to China to use their labour to build our own automated factory.
It seems risky though.
Because countries that cannot source their own weaponry become the pawns of those who can.
> He had subsequently watched its commercial aircraft business outsource itself to death. A key problem was that designers became so out of touch that they no longer understood basic manufacturing realities.
And unfortunately while Bill Clinton strongly supports slashing the corporate tax rate, Hillary is just as strongly opposed to doing so.
I'm hearing actual tax rate in real life is not that high, because of all loopholes used by the corporations.
According to King at the Ames Lab,
an iPhone has about 75 elements in it,
two-thirds of the periodic table.
I'm really going to need some percentages of mass here.The thing that lands in the box. Not the catalysts, and substances required for processes used during manufacture.
If I'm not holding it in my hands, right now, it doesn't make the list.
01. H (1) Hydrogen
02. He (2) Helium
03. Li (3) Lithium
04. B (5) Boron
05. C (6) Carbon
06. N (7) Nitrogen
07. O (8) Oxygen
08. F (9) Flourine
09. Na (11) Sodium
10. Mg (12) Magnesium
11. Al (13) Aluminum
12. Si (14) Silicon
13. P (15) Phosphorus
14. S (16) Sulfur
15. Cl (17) Chlorine
16. Ca (20) Calcium
17. Sc (21) Scandium
18. Ti (22) Titanium
19. V (23) Vanadium
20. Cr (24) Chromium
21. Mn (25) Manganese
22. Fe (26) Iron
23. Co (27) Cobalt
24. Ni (28) Nickel
25. Cu (29) Copper
26. Zn (30) Zinc
27. Ga (31) Gallium
28. Ge (32) Germanium
29. As (33) Arsenic
30. Se (34) Selenium
31. Br (35) Bromine
32. Sr (38) Strontium
33. Y (39) Yttrium
34. Zr (40) Zirconium
35. Nb (41) Niobium
36. Mo (42) Molybdenum
37. Ru (44) Ruthenium
38. Rh (45) Rhodium
39. Pd (46) Palladium
40. Ag (47) Silver
41. Cd (48) Cadmium
42. In (49) Indium
43. Sn (50) Tin
44. Sb (51) Antimony
45. Te (52) Tellurium
46. Ba (56) Barium
47. La (57) Lanthanum
48. Hf (72) Hafnium
49. Ta (73) Tantalum
50. W (74) Tungsten
51. Re (75) Rhenium
52. Os (76) Osmium
53. Ir (77) Iridium
54. Pt (78) Platinum
55. Au (79) Gold
56. Hg (80) Mercury
57. Tl (81) Thallium
58. Bi (83) Bismuth
59. Po (84) Polonium
60. Rn (86) Radon
61. Ce (58) Cerium
62. Pr (59) Praseodymium
63. Nd (60) Neodymium
64. Sm (61) Promethium
65. Eu (63) Europium
66. Gd (64) Gadolinium
67. Tb (65) Terbium
68. Dy (66) Dysprosium
69. Ho (67) Holmium
70. Er (68) Erbium
71. Tm (69) Thulium
72. Yb (70) Ytterbium
73. Lu (71) Lutetium
Some of those I'm not buying into.I don't see why things that are used during manufacture but do not end up in your hand should be excluded. The question being asked in that section of the article is whether or not the product could be produced entirely with materials and labor from the US, and so everything involved in making it should count.
has about 75 elements in it
It's like saying the natural gas and the oven belong on the printed wrapper in the list of ingredients for that cookie you just ate.The thought exercise of in-sourcing everything that ever contributed to anything that eventually goes into a phone helps to point out how the idea of disentangling ourselves from the global market is absurd.