> random-indian-guy
Can you pick another stereotype please? It costs you little and is less degrading to us Indian guys and girls who happen to see it.
I'm sure there are newbies and/or posers of other nationalities as well on freelance websites.
Can you pick another stereotype please? It costs you little and is less degrading to us Indian guys and girls who happen to see it.
I'm sure there are newbies and/or posers of other nationalities as well on freelance websites.
I do think that there is a quantity:quality issue with many foreign developers on these sites, but the work to go through them has to be easier than going through dozens of people by hand.
Still that's not what the OP meant. As i agree tech is booming in Bangalore and all, the reference here is the opposite connotation to the super developer guy. While i don't disagree that there are people who put a WP and make money, avoiding stereotyping is good for everyone.
Of course, every culture has it's quirks. I'd avoid the specific reference and stereotype and just say that working with devs from a culture you're not familiar with can be challenging.
I interpreted this differently. The contrast was with super-developer-guy, who has a really high reputation and corresponding high rate that the op cannot hope to match. The other extreme is with developers with low reputation and a low rate. Not with developers that are "newbies" or "posers".
The sites he mentioned have a 10:1 ratio of Indian developer to non-Indian. How would you describe or phrase that?
If I contrasted super-wealthy-nations with African nations, would this be hurtful towards Africans or is it just a reflection of economic statistics?
In fact, it is both. Even if we can agree that African countries are on the whole poorer than those on other continents, it is not typically such facts that cause offence, no matter how ugly or inconvenient they are.
What is hurtful is the gratuitous use of a racial/national stereotype to enforce a negative association.
African nations did not have to be singled out to make the point. There are many other countries struggling with poverty. And it was more accurate for me to say something like "low-income-nations". Yet I chose to single out Africans for the association with poverty rather than use a more general term.
This is what many people find insulting about such use of stereotypes.
If we're making small talk and mentioning the factual disparity offends and the statement makes little difference to the conversation, then I concede your point. There is no reason to say it. In fact, saying it would be quite rude.
However, if the factual statement has a material impact on the conversation, you have a responsibility to speak the truth.
It doesn't matter how hurt your feelings may be, it is absolutely despicable to try to silence those speaking the truth, regardless of how it may offend your sensibilities.
If you read this thread, you would think you can jump on Upwork, hire some guy in India, and build a complex SPA or similar and save yourself some $$$. As a matter of fact, you can't. And it's important to say that so that people don't waste their time and money.
That said it's best to avoid it. Bad developers come in every form of humanity.
EDIT: WTF? All I did was try to give OP the benefit of the doubt that maybe he's not a total bigot. I agreed stereotypes are bad and that there are bad developers of every type of person.
Someone who thinks that's down vote worthy, please explain yourself. I'd like to know what's so objectionable about that.
Racist stereotypes aren't insidious and vile because they have no truth to them. Most stereotypes are based on reality, and some even apply to the majority of the stereotyped group.
The problem with stereotypes is that you're lumping people together in possibly negative categories only because of their race. That's scientifically unsound and harmful to the individuals who want to (and should be) considered individually without prejudice based on their race.