The Born Soldier
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The novel's tech mogul Zapparoni (described in Bruce Sterling's introduction as a cross between Walt Disney and Bill Gates) made his fortune making movies that you "entered like a garden" (This has to be one of the earliest references to video games in literature?) and manufactures tiny insect-like robots which work together "like a telephone exchange", performing such tasks as cleaning the pollen from the air. As Bruce Sterling notes, this sounds more like something from our own internet age than 50s scifi. I think its a remarkable book.
Junger is an interesting personality. I can't figure him out or get close to him at all. I really want to read "Drogen und Rausch", his book about his drug experiences.
What happens when a former WW1 stormtrooper takes LSD? Unfortunately there's no English translation.
The issue of how one might enter a movie "like a garden" is going to be a big one for VR. Narratology may have some models which can be applied: in particular the idea of deixis seems relevant.
See Mary Galbraith's theory of deixis: https://www.academia.edu/1100316/Deictic_shift_theory_and_th...
The idea of the Brocken spectre, an atmospheric phenomenon appearing to produce a huge, projected figure of the human observer, is also quite common in literature, sometimes as a metaphor for simply chasing one's own tail. It's thoroughly deictic and as such I think it's a good thing to keep in mind. How more than one player/viewer can be facilitated in the same world is an interesting area for research... I'd be interested to hear any current ideas from the game/hollywood world on that point!
Also:
"It is difficult to give an idea of the vast extent of modern mathematics. The word `extent' is not the right one; I mean extent crowded with beautiful detail-not an extent of mere uniformity such as an objectless plain, but of a tract of beautiful country seen at first in the distance, but which will bear to be rambled through and studied in every detail of hillside and valley, stream, rock, wood, and flower. But, as for every thing else, so for a mathematical theory-beauty can be perceived but not explained." (Arthur Cayley, 1883)
So thanks for the hint.
The fact that young men take to soldiering isn't unusual. There is some feedback here. Soldiers create the environment that creates people like themselves. Visit any US-allied base to see what I mean. The US is a very young force, with kids joining up and leaving before hitting 30. That makes the US today very similar to the US during the Vietnam era or the UK during WWI/II. This results in a very different culture than in other nations (Canada, Germany, AU) where soldiering is more of a career. Young men create around themselves an environment that supports them. It is therefore no shock that they feel more at home in that rarified environment.
Not really, no. The average age of a US soldier in Vietnam was 19. In Iraq it was 28. That's a huge difference, and you don't get an average of 28 without having a lot of guys in their 30s.
That said, the Paul Hardcastle song "19" is still pretty good. [0]
"One man looks at a dying bird, and thinks there's nothing but unanswered pain. That Death has got the final word; it's laughing at him. Another man sees that same bird, feels the glory, feels something smiling through it."
So it confuses me when a Marine who has experienced as much as the author, including having been rewarded a Navy Cross for taking a bunker hill, says things like: "Born warriors are interested in war and fighting, not philosophy or politics." and "They don’t think or talk about whether war is moral. They don’t ponder why they are fighting for their country or whether their country was right to put them in battle. They don’t think about foreign policy—and they certainly don’t make it."
I can see the point he is trying to make, but I disagree vehemently with these particular statements. For me, it was the realization that a true warrior not only does, but should... no, must take an active interest in politics, philosophy, foreign-policy, and the reasons behind the war they are engaged in.
I would consider myself a born warrior, but I didn't go merc (modern term: contractor), or otherwise stay in the fight just to fight. Why? Because I realized, even from the very small picture a mcsf/infantry grunt, that there were lies in abundance being told to us, even to our CO's, in Iraq. I got out so that I could educate myself and I have spent the majority of my free time trying to understand the bigger geopolitical/geostrategic picture since then.
Just within the last few years have I begun to even feel as if I had a grasp on these concepts enough to claim a modicum of understanding. Yes, I have known guys who seemed to excel in combat, who went contractor and have generally stayed involved in the action side of things, but, quite honestly, while I would love to have them by my side in the heat of a firefight, their failure to understand the bigger picture is part of the reason we failed so spectacularly in the middle east in the first place.
When you have ground pounding knuckle-draggers, ready to destroy the enemy, but that aren't able to see a grander scheme, they become fodder, dispensable tools in a cause even they don't understand, and their lives are spent far too frivolously. Mr. Marlantes is correct that in the moment of battle we don't care about these things, because in that moment you just want to live, save your friends, and kill the enemy. It's the downtime when you should be preparing, recovering, thinking, studying, mentally and physically, for the next fight.
This is why Mr. Marlantes fails to understand Jungers statement that, "There’s nothing worse for a soldier than boredom.” For the born warriors, often the boredom allows bad things to surface they would rather not face, rather not think, rather not contemplate. Battle is like eating an extremely hot pepper; if you eat more you delay the pain of taking that first breath. That's my theory why many of what the author calls "born warriors" hate downtime. (besides the normal reasons all servicemen/women hate downtime).
It is for this reason that the ones most gifted in war but ungifted in larger thinking are to me, not the true "born warriors". Yes there is a certain adrenaline addiction that can occur, and a certain artistry to combat most don't understand, but I think that a warrior without philosophy isn't a warrior at all, but rather a tool. One that can be, and almost always is, misused and then discarded.
For me it all boils down to the fact that we swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Full stop. The warriors Mr. Marlantes speaks of have done nothing of the sort, despite their gallantry in particular battle. We have allowed our true enemies, both foreign and domestic, to embroil us in foreign entanglements, abuse our military might, and through the permanent alliances our first president warned us about, undermined our national system of economic protectionism and our uniquely American philosophy of individualism.
Personally, I think we are being set up as the fall guys so that the supranational oligarchy can finally put the last nail in the coffin of the American revolution and continue on with their plan of global government conveniently under their control. I also think the internet has been surprisingly effective in delaying this, which is why the internet is the next primary target of the oligarchs. With a surveillance engine the Stasi would have drooled over in place, the turn-key totalitarian system is in place, and now all it needs is the right dictator to turn it on.
We need to stop knee-jerk warring, and strike at the root of the evil. The oligarchy.
(FWIW: I'm also an OEF/OIF vet, but not a combat vet.)
Looking at the US from abroad, it is frightening to see a nation recruiting a lot of its poor and poorly educated into the biggest war machine the world has seen, under blatantly false premises and justifying its operations with obviously false narratives. It is especially heartbreaking once one becomes aware of the rich academic and philosophical tradition the US also has.
Not that Europe hasn't abused many of its young people over the recent years, in illegal and terrible wars that history will probably look back on in horror. But for better or worse, nothing really compares in scale to the recent US war effort.
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/01/pentagon-special-ops-kil...
[ed: And today, one of Norway's largest newspapers (VG.no) has a cover story about Norwegian special forces going to Syria to fight IS/ISIS, complete with a menacing action photo and the title: "Norway's Special Forces on Syria Mission: Prepared to WAR AGAINST NORWEGIANS. What awaits in the fight against IS"
If you want war it is important to sell it, not just fight it.]
Quite frankly, as a resident of one of the disproportionately represented states in the the US military, if you're a none-too-bright young man or woman in Maine, you might as well enlist out of high school, see a little bit of the world and hopefully get slotted into something that will teach you a trade. Plus, you get some benefits later on if you do want to go to college.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy
[3] http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-demographics-2014...
> Looking at the US from abroad, it is frightening to see a nation recruiting a lot of its poor and poorly educated into the biggest war machine the world has seen
Though the evidence is not 100% conclusive, that doesn't seem to be true:
> So 50 percent of the enlisted recruits (i.e., not including the officers’ corps) come from families in the top 40 percent of the income distribution, while only 10 percent come from the bottom 20 percent. [0]
> under blatantly false premises and justifying its operations with obviously false narratives.
Unfortunately, the American public in general supports involvement in wars regardless of the premises, e.g.:
> A Gallup poll made on behalf of CNN and USA Today concluded that 79% of Americans thought the Iraq War was justified, with or without conclusive evidence of illegal weapons. 19% thought weapons were needed to justify the war
Opposition to war basically only happens when the number of casualties is too high and/or the US is perceived to be losing.
[0] http://freakonomics.com/2008/09/22/who-serves-in-the-militar...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_opinion_in_the_United_...
The entire US military is huge, and even with the explosion in military contractors, most roles are surely non-combat roles. Even more so with the focus on special forces on the ground (I seem to recall the ratio is something like 10 to 1 currently). That doesn't mean non-combat roles can't be dangerous, of course. It would be interesting to see more details.
[ed: thinking more about this, even with the death of the US middle class, it's a little mind-boggling to see so many people eager to go to war in a country that's arguably at peace.]
The huge difference in perception from what is "usual" that the author of the linked article describes, struck me most when listening to it.
Examples:
Dying in battle -> That's the plan
Battle of Ramadi -> Pinnacle of life
By the way I am not judging this attitude either way. It's just interesting how different some people look at life.By the way if you liked Storm of Steel check out Black Edelweiss or for that matter Blood and Steel. One of the things that truly throws my head for a loop is the extent to which the Prussian military culture has influenced so many organizations, both military and civilian, for both the good and the bad over more than a century.
And it worked. I'm going to buy it.
The taking of a human life is always tragic. I wonder if these "born warriors" could be at home as firefighters, field medics, or similar professions. Probably not.
During my own war, I had the privilege of living in close proximity to born warriors. The Marine Corps has a lot of them. I am not one of them. I would consider myself a citizen soldier, and most of the young men I served with were citizen soldiers as well.
There is an oft quoted statistics about how 80% (or whatever high number) of soldiers don't fire at the enemy. Perhaps the remaining 20% are the "born warriors" then.
"War" seems to be a distinctly societal enterprise; this societal component is so important that it does not make sense to think about it on an individual level. If you do approach "war" at the individual level how do you distinguish it from simply carrying out violence? I also have trouble with the notion that someone is better equipped to identify and assess moral principles and ideals (I dont think it matters if you are a universalist or relativist here) simply because of one's participation in and proximity to combat. Is a mercenary as credible as someone that was motivated by political idealism? Bloodlust? The simple desire to avoid a prison sentence? What do you do with the devout Quaker who would rather be incarcerated than violate their commitment to pacifism? In general how does someone establish there bona fides for the identification and characterization of moral principles and ideals?
On an entirely separate note: I don't care if Chesty Puller or Audie Murphy show up; I think it is absurd for anyone to maintain that Karl Malantes' writing is based on the assumption that war is inherently noble.
I tend to agree.
However in the absence of a well informed and reasoned moral argument, I still think that first hand experience lends credibility to a commenter over one who has consumed only media reports.
Sure there is. There's gallantry and bravery and … nobility. There's also ugliness and cruelty and murder. Clauswitz commented famously that war is diplomacy carried out by other means; more accurately, war is humanity carried out by other means. It's inhumane but carried out by men; it's uncivilised but carried out with the fruits of industrial civilisation.
In short, it's paradoxical.
I know that the author is right: there are people who are suited for war. They're not psychopaths — it's not that they don't have empathy for others (they do), but I wonder if they have reduced empathy for themselves.
I generally see war as exploitative. I can see where Clauswitz is coming from but those are intellectual arguments to me, they don't carry a whole lot of weight when bullets are flying and your buddies are getting hurt.
Of course, I'm just sharing my opinion. I don't have any data to support how I feel about this.
But then maybe I don't understand what war is in a way that is different from a bunch of people who are willing to go to battle (for their own various reasons.)
History also doesn't talk about most of the endless numbers of doomed last stands, only the occasional one gets special mention.
> we've again returned to a condition where glorifying war is a sure moneyspinner
Not so in continental Europe. The US has barely had it's homelands touched in half a dozen generations - the US people are very removed from the reality of war, so revelling in the glory has little tangible cost these days. One example is that the entire decade-plus of US involvement in Iraq has seen fewer US deaths than the bloodiest single day in WWI saw (counting all sides), yet American talking heads keep on crapping on about the 'high' level of US casualties in Iraq.
> the Charge of the Light Brigade
Depends on your nationality. For Australians, our 'Charge of the Light Brigade' was a great success. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Beersheba_%281917%29...
But it extends to whose interests we fight the wars for in the first place.
War is not in the interest of those who fight it, most of the time.
Side note: How are Americans supposed to recognize the sacrifice made by "contract security" personnel, going forward?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marlantes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gung-ho https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outing_(Seinfeld)
He joined up to the army, then left a couple of years later, because he didn't get deployed (he was in the NZ army, and joined around the same time that we were pulling out of Afghanistan). He was then training to be a firefighter, before settling in being a nurse of all things.
It wasn't that he wanted to fight, he just has a hero complex, not that a hero complex is a bad thing.
Drones are the same.
Soldiers don't decide when the country goes to war; when we ask them to go we should provide the best equipment we can.
So the question is: why do we not we require an act of congress to do policing? How much 'stability' should our society require?
e.g. Curtis LeMay stated that he thought that had the US lost the war with Japan "he fully expected to be tried for war crimes."
But, yes, that's still an issue, particularly with the US electing not to ratify the Rome Statute.
http://www.amazon.com/Wrong-Enemy-America-Afghanistan-2001-2...
NB I'm certainly not one for prosecuting low level individuals (i.e. the forces actually on the ground) apart from exceptional circumstances (e.g. the Royal Marine who was caught on camera executing a wounded person) but I do have a lot of anger directed at the political and military leaderships in the UK.
That's my favourite spin doctoring of the 21st C: the renaming of "mercenaries" to "contractors".
Most of the contractors we had in Iraq and A-stan weren't doing any fighting. They were people who did things like cooking and driving.
One man can profess all his love for the addiction of going into action, and write so many valentine's day cards about the thrill of testing his metal. To me it rings as hollow as a junkie's pining for dope.
But it won't bury the aftermath, nor will it obviate the grind of the slower churn, when stalemate is intractable. The police state in between. The thought police of "patriotism," or rather jingoism. The miserable post-dictatorships and the corruption of the spoils.
Those who flee their victories and armistices, to find the rush of more action elsewhere are cowards in their own way. Nevermind the wake of ashes behind them.