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I highly doubt that. They've already made significant in roads to monetizing the product:

https://www.docker.com/pricing

For a small/startup kind of shop that might not be overly appealing, but there are definitely classes of business who see support as a requirement.

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Yes, they certainly have...but they don't seem to be moving nearly as fast as RedHat on OpenShift, the Kubernetes project itself and now even HP.

All the established enterprise companies seem to be eating Docker's lunch by signing huge enterprise deals off of a technology Docker invented and SHOULD have first mover advantage.

At the risk of playing the broken record, Docker didn't invent anything, etc. etc.

Kubernetes is still the elephant in the room, but Docker Swarm definitely seems to be gaining a lot of traction as well despite being a much younger project.

I certainly wouldn't count them out just yet.

In what universe is Swarm gaining traction?! I am honestly curious; I'm deep in the ecosystem and I don't know of a single shop that uses Swarm for anything other than a POC, maybe.

Personally, I can only provide the anecdata of noticing many more DevOps jobs postings mention Swarm lately, albeit often in the same breath as Kubernetes. This doesn't mean any of them are running Swarm in production, of course, but it certainly does mean Swarm is beginning to gain mindshare as a potential alternative.

The results of Docker's recent survey also seems to align with my observations [1], but of course we should probably take their findings with a grain of salt.

[1] https://blog.docker.com/2016/03/swarmweek-docker-swarm-excee...

That survey compiled results from those who replied to a Docker marketing email. The numbers are, near as makes no difference, pure fiction.

I had a contract where we used swarm to schedule jenkins slaves for us. It's used in the production pipeline a lot for one of UKs most important projects.

Ehm Docker did not invent anything. They polished an existing technology and made it better (not that it's a wrong thing). Many companies / teams do this.

And btw this is a big problem in OSS. We have a lot of good stuff and underpaid people / teams / companies. Because of OSS zealots and leeches.

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