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Good guide, but vim is still much better. http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/vimcheat.html

I like vi better than emacs in general (it probably has to do with my learning unix without X and basically vi was the only editor to use), but vi doesn't work as an IDE for Common Lisp.

Vial (http://common-lisp.net/project/vial/) was started with that goal, i.e., to provide SLIME-like functionality for vi but it's one of those still-in-progress (and may never actually release anything useful) projects.

Brad Beveridge abandoned development on both vial and slim-vim. He conceded and now uses emacs+vimpulse. [1]

Many people that come to Lisp from vi tend to be very hesistant to use emacs. I spent weeks trying to use vilisp.vim and viper-mode but eventually learned to live with emacs. It was worth it.

http://www.lispniks.com/pipermail/slim-vim/2007-May/000556.h...

That's where I find myself now. I'm trying to bite the bullet and just use emacs for daily tasks, but it's hard to switch!

Let's be honest, 99.9% of developers out there don't care much about lisp.

Emacs vs. Vim has been a long standing debate, so it would never resloved here. Frankly, I just use Textpad, and/or Eclipse, and ocassionally GVIM.

That's true. I care about Lisp so that's where I'm starting (hence the emphasis on SLIME more than Emacs). After I get better, I'll probably make an Emacs-only cheat sheet that's applicable to non-Lisp programmers.

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